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  • #21
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
    See my whole problem with this is Wlad's career says otherwise, anytime he has fought a fighter with faster hands but was smaller like Ali he has excelled.
    Wlad has never fought any fighter like Ali. Ever.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
      Wlad has never fought any fighter like Ali. Ever.
      He has been at similar disadvantages as he would be against Ali and seemed to excel in the situation.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
        He has been at similar disadvantages as he would be against Ali and seemed to excel in the situation.
        It's not similar because Ali is on another level. You can't compare him to somebody like Eddie Chambers. It's not just speed. It's the jab, footwork, chin and combinations. Ali is one of the best at this in history and nobody on Wlad's resume can say the same.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
          He has been at similar disadvantages as he would be against Ali and seemed to excel in the situation.
          Byrd is not offensive minded like Ali

          Haye doesnt throw combinations like Ali

          Chambers is not even fast So I dont know why you brought him up....

          Ali is just BETTER than most modern fighters. Evander and Lennox are the only ones versatile enough to match him.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Joeyzagz View Post
            Byrd is not offensive minded like Ali

            Haye doesnt throw combinations like Ali

            Chambers is not even fast So I dont know why you brought him up....

            Ali is just BETTER than most modern fighters. Evander and Lennox are the only ones versatile enough to match him.
            Joe Calzaghe UD Muhammad Ali.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
              It's not similar because Ali is on another level. You can't compare him to somebody like Eddie Chambers. It's not just speed. It's the jab, footwork, chin and combinations. Ali is one of the best at this in history and nobody on Wlad's resume can say the same.
              This means it is inconceivable to think Wlad could beat him, he has his advantages as well and has never really been out boxed......Its not like Ali can just stand there throwing combo's with no regard to what is coming back at him he is going to need to move and his punch out put will be reduced to a Wlad pace fight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                This means it is inconceivable to think Wlad could beat him, he has his advantages as well and has never really been out boxed......Its not like Ali can just stand there throwing combo's with no regard to what is coming back at him he is going to need to move and his punch out put will be reduced to a Wlad pace fight.
                I'm not so sure Wlad will be able to slow down Ali.

                Ali's ripping combos, dancing in an out of range would be dictating the pace. To slow down Ali Wlad, is going to have to hit him with hard jabs as he moves in to throw a combo. Not only is Ali too fast but, he's too good and confusing in his unorthodox defence as to be hit too much to disrupt his rhythm.

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                • #28
                  Vitali for sure. His style would prove awkward for Ali. Wladimir has great tools, but is too methodical. Eventually Ali would time him and hurt him.

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                  • #29
                    Both klits beat Ali. Come on folks Ali was 6'3 215. The klits are to big and would have won the fight easy. Both guy are taller than 6'6 and weight 250+ and have a go long jab and great space awareness. Foreman was a monster in those days and he looks average next to the klits. Both klits beat Ali and then Larry merchant runs them all over in a drunkin rage.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by r3robinson View Post
                      Both klits beat Ali. Come on folks Ali was 6'3 215. The klits are to big and would have won the fight easy. Both guy are taller than 6'6 and weight 250+ and have a go long jab and great space awareness. Foreman was a monster in those days and he looks average next to the klits. Both klits beat Ali and then Larry merchant runs them all over in a drunkin rage.
                      Yet Ali's reach was the same as Vitali's and only an inch less than Wlad's, and his foot speed, hand speed, and footwork would likely be far too much for either.

                      Their height and weight advantage means nothing.

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