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View Poll Results: Does the new breed of casual boxing fans put too much emphasis on fighters' records?
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:32 PM #51
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the reason why floyd is great, is because he is so skilled and has proven his skill time and time again--and him having the confidence that no fighter can beat him makes him that much more endeering---he doesn't underestimate any fighter--he busts his ass in the gy for every fight, training twice a day at times----going oout of the box---that's why he's great---the ****ing kid became a world champion in less than 2 years after his debut, dominating the world champion---he fought 2 tough fights with castillo and the first one, he wasn't even 100%, yet he still won a close, hard fought fight---the second fight with jose, he beat him again--and he was 100%---

floyd being undefeated doesn't make him great, but it is important to me that he is undefeated because it goes to show you, that floyd busts his ass to keep that 0----and he doesn't want to be like any other fighter who loses, and then comes back to win----he wants to be the most dominant fighter ever, beating whoever is in his path---that takes great skill, great will, great confidence---all of which floyd has----that's why he's great, and the best in the sport---people tend to forget he came up from a smaller weight class and hasn't lost yet---beating guys who've fought at their natural weight class, or guys who have been at that weight class for most of their careers---that takes a brilliant mind, and a highly skilled fighter, and floyd possesses a brilliant mind and he is the most skilled fighter the sport has seen, possible ever imo----he loves his 0, and why shouldn't he? he's earned it---he's earned all of his wins----that's the confidence fighters need to have---

that's why floyd talks about losses so much, because he values his unbeaten record, and trains like he does---that's risky and that's bravado---he didn't get to where he is by fighting bums--he's fought world champion, top champions, former world champions, highly skilled fighters, pressure fighters, brawlers, he has outboxed fighters, out brawled fighters, ko'ed and tko'ed fighters, while dominating a bout before doing so---so his undefeated record is very important, because it gives him his drive and motivation---every fighter has a different motivation---floyd's ultimate goal is to retired undefeated, and he has every right to want to do so---he has the confidence to say no fighter is better than him, past or present, and his record is a good argument in his favor---past fighters, present fighters, up and coming fighters should have this type of drive---yes, floyd loves money----but he's been around the sport all of his life---and he knows what it takes to win---and that's the most impressive thing about him---he can beat you in so many different ways---it a one on one combat sport---if you don't have the underlying motivation, floyd's is his 0, then you're in the wrong sport---he wants to be the best---he feels he is the best---and he's won 6 world championships in 6 weight classes in just under 11 years, while staying undefeated---

he can have all the confidence in the world, when he's accomplished this---he can be ****y, arrogant, dismiss other fighters, because he's a fighter who prepares himself for victory---it's not like he bull****s his way to victory---he's a brilliant fighter---he can beat you mentally, right after telling you how he will beat you, and how you fight, and then you fight him, and you do exactly what he says you do, and how he won't work against him, and he's been right 40 times---which is why he's yet to be beaten---

so stop all of the ducking and running bs----coz he doesn't fight the way you like---i wouldnt' fight the way you like either---most of you dumb ****ers on here and larry merchant's dumb ass have never laced up gloves and got in the ring yourselves---so how can you criticize a guy's fighting style, when you wouldn't have the confidence to go in the ring and fight, let alone fight like he does----

it's always easy to bash him, when you can't do what he does----while you're working at a fast food joint, dreaming about being rich and the best at something, he's in the ring, getting rich and being the best at what he does---

i always say, if you want to see non stop action and don't like how floyd fights, then go to a gym, hire a trainer, and get you ****ing ass in the ring and fight like you want to watch fights---until then, your opinion and criticism of floyd is just that---it holds not merit----when that "boring" mayweather has yet to lose a pro fight, has garnered millions of dollars, has been in magazines as the best fighter in the sport----

you tell me how a coward becomes labeled the number 1 p4p fighter in boxing, and only lost that spot once he retired--and he's been on the p4p list majority of his career---in the top half of it---that's a runner and a coward to you people? you people don't know ****---

floyd is one of the greatest fighters this sport has ever seen---past, present, and future---and his record proves it----
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:51 PM #52
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the way i see it is... lets say errrm pavlik... pavlik lost to martinez.. martinez is now awesome... if pavlik beat martinez (and didnt have a loss to bernard so he was undefeated) martinez would have been too small etc... and he wouldnt have been tested or whatever... the point is if you are undefeated and have dominated your opponants people will say you havent fought good opposition because there is no measuring stick. the way i look at it is through a mix of skill and record.. imo you dont need someone to lose to measure his skills and the fact is i dont care how the old timers get butthurt the fighters of today are just as good as the fighters of yesterday, just as fast, just as quick and just as human.
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:55 PM #53
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The path to greatness is to challenge yourself in a fight you might actually lose and the odds are stacked against you. Undefeated don't mean much if you don't fight the top guys of your era. Unfortunately some ppl are ready to write off a fighter if he loses. Either he is washed up, garbage, a hype job, on the decline, etc.


One thing though, an undefeated record has became a good promotional tool
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the reason why floyd is great, is because he is so skilled and has proven his skill time and time again--and him having the confidence that no fighter can beat him makes him that much more endeering---he doesn't underestimate any fighter--he busts his ass in the gy for every fight, training twice a day at times----going oout of the box---that's why he's great---the ****ing kid became a world champion in less than 2 years after his debut, dominating the world champion---he fought 2 tough fights with castillo and the first one, he wasn't even 100%, yet he still won a close, hard fought fight---the second fight with jose, he beat him again--and he was 100%---

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Proven against who? Corrales Castillo Zab and Baldomir?? He has only fought 2 HOFs....Marquez and Oscar. Mosley is coming up tho.
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I have always felt this way. Generally a fighter will learn more from one loss than than he would from 10 easy wins. Many of the true greats have lost early and improved on their mistakes. Anyways more boxing fans look back and discuss Emanuel Augustus than Sven Ottke.
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