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Old 12-09-2019, 10:48 AM #1
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Default Be Honest, Luis Ortiz > Andy Ruiz

Wilder's 2 KO wins over Ortiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua going 1-1 against a 5'10 fat turd with the footspeed of a turtle

Ortiz would box his head off havana style.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:51 AM #2
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Ortiz has done nothing. Most overrated fighter in the sport.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:56 AM #3
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Ortiz has done nothing. Most overrated fighter in the sport.

He beat Tony Thompson and Bryant Jennings both top 10 at the time.


Ruiz has done nothing except beat Joshua. that says how bad Joshua is.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:56 AM #4
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Youre insane. Ruiz lost to parker. Has ortiz lost to parker?!?! I think not. Ruiz fastest hands and most pop out of every HW not named Joshua. Ruiz ATG
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Ortiz has done nothing. Most overrated fighter in the sport.
I thought that was Wilder
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:58 AM #6
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Youre insane. Ruiz lost to parker. Has ortiz lost to parker?!?! I think not. Ruiz fastest hands and most pop out of every HW not named Joshua. Ruiz ATG
fast hands mean nothing when you move like a turtle.

longer reach fighters with faster legs will always outbox you. that's why Ortiz would whitewash Ruiz.

Hell even Stiverne would beat Ruiz.
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Old 12-09-2019, 11:01 AM #7
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I'd honestly favor Ortiz over AJ right now after that pathetic performance tbh...
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Looking at Ruiz and Ortiz resume, then definitely Ruiz. He has fought two notable name in their primes, won one and lost the other, Ortiz has fought two notable names (Lost to one and won the other). But Ruiz's won was more significant because he beat a bigger name and was a world champion. Ortiz beat Jennings who isn't much more than a Seth Mitchell.
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Old 12-09-2019, 11:04 AM #9
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Ortiz would comfortably outbox Ruiz.

Ruiz is rubbish and always has been, it's a disgrace that Joshua got knocked out by him tbh.
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Looking at Ruiz and Ortiz resume, then definitely Ruiz. He has fought two notable name in their primes, won one and lost the other, Ortiz has fought two notable names (Lost to one and won the other). But Ruiz's won was more significant because he beat a bigger name and was a world champion. Ortiz beat Jennings who isn't much more than a Seth Mitchell.
you can't go by resume.


going by resume Michael Moorer beat Holyfield and was world champ. David Tua never beat a hall of famer and was never world champ yet he almost killed Michael Moorer heads up.



Luck and styles matter.


Andy Ruiz is 5'10 300 lbs, T-Rex arms with the slowest footspeed i have ever seen. He can be outboxed by the likes of Ortiz easily.
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