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Old 12-09-2019, 08:23 AM #11
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Start from the 5.50 mark.

This is for the idiots slagging off Josh and claiming he's ducking Fury. Josh offered him a fight before he signed with ESPN, but he rejected it. And now he said if he ever fights Josh, it would've to be after his contract with ESPN. However, I'm sure idiots would still claim Josh is the one ducking Fury. LMAO.
Fury's got three fights left on the contract, i believe? I also saw him say somewhere that he reckons he's only got three fights left, period, before he retires. I suppose he'll be angling for a stupid amount of money to fight AJ in 2021? The whole situation sucks, I don't think the blame can be put wholly on any one fighter though. A lot of AJ's moves are half-dictated by Hearn, and contracts get in the way, for example. And of course, fighters deserve to get as much money as they can...

I've heard Fury say he deserves 50/50 for a fight with AJ, which for a long time seemed ridiculous since AJ's PR profile was huge compared to Fury. So, one good thing that has come out of the ESPN contract is that Fury's profile has been increasing, which will make for a bigger fight. Such a shame it won't happen until 2021, or maybe never. But I'm not blaming any one person in particular
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:28 AM #12
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No way would Joshua fight like he did Ruiz. He'd light Fury up with combinations.
In which case, I think Fury would succeed in keeping AJ at range, boxing on the back foot, and tying AJ up on the inside when needed. People say Fury lacks power, but he just tends not to sit down on his shots, and he has enough there to keep AJ off him I think
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:32 AM #13
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In which case, I think Fury would succeed in keeping AJ at range, boxing on the back foot, and tying AJ up on the inside when needed. People say Fury lacks power, but he just tends not to sit down on his shots, and he has enough there to keep AJ off him I think
Fury lacks power. Look at his last fight. He was throwing everything he had at Wallin. He's the HW Malignaggi
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:35 AM #14
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Yeah maybe you're right, but let's get one thing straight, AJ needs the KO to beat Fury, AJ cannot outbox Fury...

I agree with you insomuch as we need to see the fight happen to know for sure, until then it's all speculation. It really is a sad state of affairs when the big fights don't happen as they ought to
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:37 AM #15
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Joshua is willing to fight anybody except deontay wilder.


We already know this.

Usyk
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Ruiz trilogy

That's all he talked about after beating Ruiz.

So no undisputed in 2020
LMAO. Josh ainít fighting Ruiz again unless he has a belt he wants. If Ruiz can force Haymonís hand to put him in the ring with Wilder. Heíll beat Wilder with the granite chin and huge left hook. Then he might get a trilogy. But with his whole antics after June 1 - heís never getting a free shot at AJ again.

As for Wilder: he rejected 5 offers already and every true boxing fan knows who the real duck is, lol. The same guy was eager to fight Ruiz for anything and he has been crying since Ruiz lost but wonít fight AJ for $120m. LMAO.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:47 AM #16
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Yeah maybe you're right, but let's get one thing straight, AJ needs the KO to beat Fury, AJ cannot outbox Fury...

I agree with you insomuch as we need to see the fight happen to know for sure, until then it's all speculation. It really is a sad state of affairs when the big fights don't happen as they ought to
I think he can potentially outwork him to a decision, especially if he hurts him in a few rounds. Fury out pointing him is also a distinct possibility...I actually think all 4 results are on the table in that fight. It's a good clash of styles. I know everyone wants Wilder Joshua, but I actually think Joshua-Fury might be the best fight. I heard their sparring was pretty explosive
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:48 AM #17
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Fury's got three fights left on the contract, i believe? I also saw him say somewhere that he reckons he's only got three fights left, period, before he retires. I suppose he'll be angling for a stupid amount of money to fight AJ in 2021? The whole situation sucks, I don't think the blame can be put wholly on any one fighter though. A lot of AJ's moves are half-dictated by Hearn, and contracts get in the way, for example. And of course, fighters deserve to get as much money as they can...

I've heard Fury say he deserves 50/50 for a fight with AJ, which for a long time seemed ridiculous since AJ's PR profile was huge compared to Fury. So, one good thing that has come out of the ESPN contract is that Fury's profile has been increasing, which will make for a bigger fight. Such a shame it won't happen until 2021, or maybe never. But I'm not blaming any one person in particular
The ESPN contract is just an excuse. Lomachenko is signed to ESPN but that didnít stop him from coming to London to fight Luke Campbell.

Itís not like Fury is a huge star in America - heís on the same level as Wilder. And a fight between Fury and Josh in the US wonít generate that much interest. So I donít think ESPN would hold him back from fighting in the UK, since the fight would break all records. And boxing fans in the US would watch the fight regardless of what time itís, the same way boxing fans in the UK stay awake to watch big fights in the US with non-British fighters. Also, I heard the number for AJ vs Ruiz 2 was huge in the US despite happening during big college football games.

I just think Fury knows Josh is a terrible style matchup for him. He doesnít have the power to keep AJ honest and AJ doesnít throw punches wildly like Wilder despite have power in both hands. And he canít completely outbox someone as accurate with great punch selection and Olympic pedigree as AJ.

So Fury will most likely take that fight when heís about to retire.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:50 AM #18
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I like Fury`s skills, but I don`t like him fighting bums while waiting on Wilder.

People criticize Wilder for fighting Breazeale, Ortiz, but Fury is fighting guys nobody has ever heard about.
Tyson Fury has lost the eye of the Tiger 'He may appear more dedicated then ever, but there is something in his approach to the sports which has changed'.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:51 AM #19
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Fury is so full of *****.

He's also *****ting his pants at the Wilder rematch.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:53 AM #20
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Joshua outboxes a clinically obese bum and he's suddenly going to beat Tyson Fury!
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Matchroom FC casuals make me laugh.

Fury is busy fighting the second best man in the division. Joshua will continue to duck both top dogs and will fight some old bum like Pulev.

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