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Old 03-14-2018, 02:35 AM #21
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Old 03-14-2018, 04:45 AM #22
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1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holyfield
4. Lewis
5. Foreman
6. W. Klitschko
7. Larry Holmes
8. Mike Tyson
9. Marciano
10. Frazier
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1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Rocky Marciano
4. Jack Dempsey
5. George Foreman
6. Joe Frazier
7. Larry Holmes
8. Lennox Lewis
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Mike Tyson
Wasn't Rocky Marciano like 188 at his heaviest?

I think he was like 184-185 when he fought Jersey Joe Walcott.

Today he would be a Cruiserweight. Outstanding!
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:02 AM #23
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A thread about heavyweights that made it to the 2nd page without a single post from that juggernaut guy? Is nsb broken?
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:44 AM #24
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In terms of accomplishments:

1) Wladimir Klitschko

2) Lennox Lewis

3) Vitali Klitschko

4) Mike Tyson

5) Evander Holyfield

6) Muhammad Ali

7) Larry Holmes

8) George Foreman

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Old 03-14-2018, 07:45 AM #25
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The fact he won 7 rounds in Wlads 2nd home in front of extremely biased judges (Germany is notorious) that's like beating Wlad 118-110 in Vegas or anywhere outside of Germany and UKraine.
That's a myth! If that was the case, that fight would've been scored a draw between Wladimir Klitschko and Tyson Fury.

It was a very close fight with even rounds.

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Virtually everyone puts Wlad in their top 10 and Fury beat him when he was still prime.

That win alone should get him rated.
A 39 year old Wladimir klitschko was not in his prime. Absolutely not!

And nobody ever gets ranked as an ATG for a single win. Rather, it's about what they achieve after a prolonged period of time.

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He completely dominated Wlad in Germany (Wlads 2nd home). Not once did he ever get buzzed.
At no point did Fury ever dominate Wlad. A prime Fury could barely land a glove on a 39 year old, past his best version of Wladimir Klitschko with meaningful and effective punches. Instead, he had to settle for 2 or 3 extra cuffing punches to win rounds. that is despite Fury being much taller, having the much longer reach and being younger by over 10 years.

So no, when it comes to the main objective of boxing (landing more punches than the opponent), he absolutely did not dominate. Wlad made Fury look like an amateur at times by making him miss punches wildly whilst Fury was lunging in, off balanced on many occasions.
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Old 03-14-2018, 09:40 AM #26
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Wasn't Rocky Marciano like 188 at his heaviest?

I think he was like 184-185 when he fought Jersey Joe Walcott.

Today he would be a Cruiserweight. Outstanding!


These guys fought in different eras, you have to look at their accomplishments in their era, what they did, etc....

A lot of guys I have ranked in the top 10 and also guys that aren't on the list would beat Marciano one on one and others on this list. But that's not how you rank and rate. You rank by accomplishments and what they did in their eras and how it is measured throughout history with what others did.
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In terms of accomplishments:

1) Wladimir Klitschko

2) Lennox Lewis

3) Vitali Klitschko

4) Mike Tyson

5) Evander Holyfield

6) Muhammad Ali

7) Larry Holmes

8) George Foreman

9) Joe Frazier

10) Joe Louis
“In terms of accomplishments,” and you have Tyson at number four?
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our deontay wilder!
the least accomplished of the two klitschkos!
tyson freaking fury above the guy who was his best win and in his 40's, and who he barely scraped by!
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Old 03-14-2018, 09:58 AM #29
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“In terms of accomplishments,” and you have Tyson at number four?
Where would you have him in that list?
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but you forgot lou savarese
and lou ferrigno
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