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Originally posted by McNulty View PostWho did Calzaghe beat at SMW besides Kessler? Please don't say Lacy.
Ward's 168 resume isn't that deep either.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostLacy was favored to win, but he also beat Eubank, Woodhall, Reid. Not murderers row but solid overall. Kessler was already on the decline when Ward beat him.
Ward's 168 resume isn't that deep either.
Ward at SMW:
1) Froch
2) Kessler
3) Dawson
4) Abraham
Calslappy at SMW:
1) Kessler
2) Lacy
3) Old Eubank
Ward by a mile!
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostLacy was favored to win, but he also beat Eubank, Woodhall, Reid. Not murderers row but solid overall. Kessler was already on the decline when Ward beat him.
Ward's 168 resume isn't that deep either.
Source: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39379&start=25
Eubank retired 9 months later. Eubank was at the end of his career. Thats like giving Leon Spinks credit for beating an old Ali.
Woodhall and Reid, meh --- those guys were garbage. Woodhall never beat anybody really and Joe was his last fight. Didn't even
When Reid was 33-3-1 he started fighting 8 rounders and eventuallt 3 rounders what the fúck? He lost a 3 rounder to Tobias Webb who was 4-0-1.
When he fought Calzaghe, he hadn't fought anybody.
Even though Ward was dirty, his resume is so much better than Calzaghe's. Joe feasted on inexperienced guys. Doesn't matter if you're undefeated or not when you're 20-0ish.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostLacy was favored to win, but he also beat Eubank, Woodhall, Reid. Not murderers row but solid overall. Kessler was already on the decline when Ward beat him.
Ward's 168 resume isn't that deep either.
He beat Froch after losing to Ward.
Delete your account.
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostLacy is a bum. The fact that Calslappy fans cling to that as his 2nd best win goes to show you that his argument for SMW #1 is flat. Yes he was super hyped, but that doesn't eliminate his lack of substance. He doesn't have a relevant soul on his resume. It is equivalent to Ward's win over Allan Green. It is absolutely meaningless.
Ward at SMW:
1) Froch
2) Kessler
3) Dawson
4) Abraham
Calslappy at SMW:
1) Kessler
2) Lacy
3) Old Eubank
Ward by a mile!
Kessler and Froch wins are alright, but nothing special either. At least when Calzaghe beat Kessler and Lacy (who was overrated but heavily favored in this country) they were undefeated champions coming in.
Your clearly overrating Ward's accomplishments by refusing to acknowledge the above but putting ** next to Calzaghe's wins (which I'm not claiming are all that sensational).
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostAbraham was coming off a shutout loss to Froch, Dawson was coming down a division and clearly weight drained. He also lost to Pascal, then got iced in a round by Adonis.
Kessler and Froch wins are alright, but nothing special either. At least when Calzaghe beat Kessler and Lacy (who was overrated but heavily favored in this country) they were undefeated champions coming in.
Your clearly overrating Ward's accomplishments by refusing to acknowledge the above but putting ** next to Calzaghe's wins (which I'm not claiming are all that sensational).
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