rock music is truly dead

[TonyGe]

Might have heard the name of that band but never heard their music. Thought it was a metal band.

Rock, Hard rock and somewhat metal. Its fronted by a female with a great voice. New Modern Love is catchy and she does an excellent vocal on a song called A Familiar Taste Of Poison.

[paulf]

I was in the music industry and I'll give it to you 100%: rock is dead because of economics.

When all the money flooded out of the industry in the mid-2000s, the clock started ticking. Damn near every big rock band in history were guys from a working class background, and without advances from labels, income from selling records DIY or indie labels, it became harder and harder to get a band going.

Think of all the costs associated: equipment, a van, studio time, management and a booking agent, etc etc etc in addition to a band being four-five guys who, if you really get going, can't have full-time jobs. That's a ton of overhead.

Meanwhile, look at rap music and EDM: you can make professional quality music in those genres while living with your mom and working at KFC. Hell, you don't even need a job, you can literally make pro-quality stuff with pirated software for free. You can go on tour with just yourself and some MP3s on your phone. There is no investment but time.

The music being produced as such a minimal cost results in a greater return on the investment, and thus artists, labels, and everyone else have nothing but incentive to work in those genres.

There is zero incentive to make music as a band now. So what's left is, in my opinion, a bunch of middle class guys making rock music for vanity reasons. So much of this hipster-rock stuff, like it or not, is made by bands whose parents pay their rent. Its a completely different universe in the rock landscape than a decade ago.

The genre is dead.

[b Murphington]

I was in the music industry and I'll give it to you 100%: rock is dead because of economics.

When all the money flooded out of the industry in the mid-2000s, the clock started ticking. Damn near every big rock band in history were guys from a working class background, and without advances from labels, income from selling records DIY or indie labels, it became harder and harder to get a band going.

Think of all the costs associated: equipment, a van, studio time, management and a booking agent, etc etc etc in addition to a band being four-five guys who, if you really get going, can't have full-time jobs. That's a ton of overhead.

Meanwhile, look at rap music and EDM: you can make professional quality music in those genres while living with your mom and working at KFC. Hell, you don't even need a job, you can literally make pro-quality stuff with pirated software for free. You can go on tour with just yourself and some MP3s on your phone. There is no investment but time.

The music being produced as such a minimal cost results in a greater return on the investment, and thus artists, labels, and everyone else have nothing but incentive to work in those genres.

There is zero incentive to make music as a band now. So what's left is, in my opinion, a bunch of middle class guys making rock music for vanity reasons. So much of this hipster-rock stuff, like it or not, is made by bands whose parents pay their rent. Its a completely different universe in the rock landscape than a decade ago.

The genre is dead.

I can confirm that. I got a friend who raps. His parents pay his rent and for a long time, I think he only made minimum wage or just a little bit over. I think he’s making more money now, but he was a bum ass for a long time.

At least we still got bands like Maiden and Scorpions that still tour.

And cover bands. The next best thing.

[paulf]

And cover bands. The next best thing.

I've been warning my girlfriend I'm only a few years away from dawning a hawaiian shirt and playing covers in casinos. It's ****ing happening.

[Don Pichardo]

Who actually buys music nowadays? People just YouTube rip or stream, the only way bands can make any money is via gigs or selling merchandise.

I do. But I’m a fan of music.

[Don Pichardo]

Mainstream music today is all computer generated, auto-tune, whiney chick music. If you want rock, you have to look to metal now, otherwise forget it. But look across all genres and what passes for music today in rock, country, hip-hop, etc., is watered down soy-boy shyt.

I have to agree.

[Don Pichardo]

I was in the music industry and I'll give it to you 100%: rock is dead because of economics.

When all the money flooded out of the industry in the mid-2000s, the clock started ticking. Damn near every big rock band in history were guys from a working class background, and without advances from labels, income from selling records DIY or indie labels, it became harder and harder to get a band going.

Think of all the costs associated: equipment, a van, studio time, management and a booking agent, etc etc etc in addition to a band being four-five guys who, if you really get going, can't have full-time jobs. That's a ton of overhead.

Meanwhile, look at rap music and EDM: you can make professional quality music in those genres while living with your mom and working at KFC. Hell, you don't even need a job, you can literally make pro-quality stuff with pirated software for free. You can go on tour with just yourself and some MP3s on your phone. There is no investment but time.

The music being produced as such a minimal cost results in a greater return on the investment, and thus artists, labels, and everyone else have nothing but incentive to work in those genres.

There is zero incentive to make music as a band now. So what's left is, in my opinion, a bunch of middle class guys making rock music for vanity reasons. So much of this hipster-rock stuff, like it or not, is made by bands whose parents pay their rent. Its a completely different universe in the rock landscape than a decade ago.

The genre is dead.

Sad but true! In Metallica voice.

Thanks for the insight. Greent

[b Murphington]

I've been warning my girlfriend I'm only a few years away from dawning a hawaiian shirt and playing covers in casinos. It's ****ing happening.

Let me know when you do. I’ll be one of the dozens of people who show up to your show. You’ll be the first band in the line up, 4 hours before the main attraction.

I’ll throw you my tighty whiteys too.

[phallus]

Never hear much of their songs but Greta Van Fleet might keep it alive.

Greta Van Fleet and Royalblood rock

Man these kids don't play instruments no more. That's one reason why jazz and classical are dead. Everybody body either wants to sing or rap everything else can be done by the computer.

Once the government cut funding to school, Music and Art class are the first to go. Playing and learning a instrument is expensive and take time. Would you rather put your child in sport camp for $300-500 or buy a instrument for $500-1000 then get him a teacher $$$$ then drive around looking for gigs for him to practice. Those days are long gone unless you are a music family, joins a church group or rich.

Kids like sports and video games.

this is true ^ when i was a kid i learned how to play and read music for free in elementary school

I'm a musician and this is pretty much on the money.

The only thing left out is the business influence on it all. Big corporations don't get rich dealing with temperamental guitarists, keyboardists and drummers in bands that sometimes get costly, they get rich selling products that are easily and cheaply produced for the most $$ they can.

HIpHop, EDM & Alt can all be produced by one guy in the studio on a computer. Then after years & decades of **intensley marketing musical prefab with drum machines and sub bass over actual bands**, the younger listeners of don't care about the organic and soulful groove of real musicians anymore, and look at the actual music in their songs as a prop.

Yes, there is good underground stuff in all genres of music, but until there is a musical apocalypse and following revolution, popular music and media will have many plugged into the Matrix.

I was gigging back in the 80's/90's, just think how different it is for me.

I was in the music industry and I'll give it to you 100%: rock is dead because of economics.

When all the money flooded out of the industry in the mid-2000s, the clock started ticking. Damn near every big rock band in history were guys from a working class background, and without advances from labels, income from selling records DIY or indie labels, it became harder and harder to get a band going.

Think of all the costs associated: equipment, a van, studio time, management and a booking agent, etc etc etc in addition to a band being four-five guys who, if you really get going, can't have full-time jobs. That's a ton of overhead.

Meanwhile, look at rap music and EDM: you can make professional quality music in those genres while living with your mom and working at KFC. Hell, you don't even need a job, you can literally make pro-quality stuff with pirated software for free. You can go on tour with just yourself and some MP3s on your phone. There is no investment but time.

The music being produced as such a minimal cost results in a greater return on the investment, and thus artists, labels, and everyone else have nothing but incentive to work in those genres.

There is zero incentive to make music as a band now. So what's left is, in my opinion, a bunch of middle class guys making rock music for vanity reasons. So much of this hipster-rock stuff, like it or not, is made by bands whose parents pay their rent. Its a completely different universe in the rock landscape than a decade ago.

The genre is dead.

I've been warning my girlfriend I'm only a few years away from dawning a hawaiian shirt and playing covers in casinos. It's ****ing happening.

i have already taken the hawaiian shirt out of the closet and started playing covers in pubs, i'm getting ready for the casino

[Mash121]

You've got Lil pump now. It's all about being out there with the long multi colour hair and some mumble lyrics.

But agree being in a band is hard work compared to spitting some lyrics in your basement..