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    "I found out about it recently and I was surprised by it," Trump said. "We certainly wish him well. It's obviously a very tough time for him. He did a very good job while he was in the White House."

    "He says he's innocent, and I think you have to remember that," Trump said. "He said very strongly yesterday that he's innocent, but you'll have to talk to him about that."



    When a Border Patrol agent died under mysterious circumstances in November, U.S. President Donald Trump did not wait for any evidence of homicide before he suggested the agent was murdered by illegal immigrants.

    When a gambling addict set a deadly fire at a Philippines casino in June, Trump did not wait for any evidence before he inaccurately declared the incident a “terrorist attack.”

    And Trump has never waited for evidence before accusing political rivals of all sorts of implausible criminality. Relying on nothing but an absurd National Enquirer report, he suggested Ted Cruz’s father was involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Relying on nothing at all, he accused Barack Obama of illegally wiretapping his phones.

    Trump has a different standard for right-wing white males accused of harming women. Specifically: no amount of evidence is sufficient.

    For a president who holds himself out as tough on crime, nothing at all — multiple reports from accusers who don’t know each other, a photograph of a swollen face, even a dead body — has been enough to prompt a swift and direct condemnation.

    A mantra of the #MeToo movement is “believe women.” If Trump had a mantra, it’d be something like: “Believe conservative guys, or at least play down their wrongdoing.”

    Trump campaigned for Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore after he was accused of sexually assaulting and harassing multiple teenage girls. After Heather Heyer was killed in Charlottesville, Va., allegedly by a white supremacist, Trump generically denounced “violence on many sides, on many sides.”

    Trump did not even pretend to go through the motions of denouncing ex-aide Rob Porter.

    Porter, Trump’s staff secretary, resigned Wednesday after he was accused of abusing both of his ex-wives, one of whom provided news outlets with a photograph of a black eye she said he caused by punching her.

    On Friday, Trump expressed sympathy. For … Porter.

    “It’s a, obviously, tough time for him,” Trump said. “He did a very good job when he was in the White House. And we hope he has a wonderful career and hopefully he will have a great career ahead of him. But it was very sad when we heard about it, and certainly he’s also very sad now. He also, as you probably know, he says he’s innocent, and I think you have to remember that. He said very strongly yesterday that he’s innocent.”

    He said nothing about Porter’s accusers. He said nothing about violence against women. He had appeared far more agitated when he spoke out in November against Black teenage athletes arrested in China for shoplifting sunglasses.

    “… Shoplifting is NOT a little thing. It’s a really big deal, especially in China” he said on Twitter.

    The divergence in Trump’s responses to various incidents is no mystery.

    Why does the president enthusiastically condemn non-white criminals? Part personality, part strategy: he has a long history of both personal racism and using racism to excite bigots in his voter base.

    Why is the president unwilling to condemn men accused of crimes against women? Part personality, part strategy.

    On the strategic side, Trump is himself a man accused of crimes against women. He and his aides appear to see any admission that women’s charges can be believed as a weakening of Trump’s own defence.

    But it would be wrong to attribute his remarks strictly to political considerations. Much of it, by all accounts, is simply a reflection of how he feels.

    Whether or not Trump is guilty of the dozen sexual assaults he has been accused of, he has a long history of demonstrable sexism. And he does not seem to be troubled by claims that men have mistreated women.

    After Fox News host Bill O’Reilly paid millions to settle harassment cases, Trump said in April: “He is a good person … I don't think Bill did anything wrong.” After Fox News chairman Roger Ailes was ousted over harassment claims, Trump continued to use him as a close adviser. He has said nothing about a report alleging decades of sexual harassment by his friend and fundraiser Steve Wynn.

    Trump was not even comfortable with the softest of softball questions about workplace harassment. When Piers Morgan asked him in January if he can “sign up” to the goal of women being safe at work, he offered two words on the subject — “I do” — before pivoting to illegal immigrants.

    “I do, but I also think they want to feel safe at the border. I think they don’t want people pouring into their country,” he said.

    There was at least one case in which Trump took a strong stand against a domestic abuser.

    “If @rihanna is dating @chrisbrown again then she has a death wish. A beater is always a beater--just watch!” he wrote on Twitter in 2012.

    With the benefit of hindsight, Brown’s race appears uncoincidental.

    Trump’s feeble remarks on Porter fanned a controversy that was embarrassing for the White House. Chief of staff John Kelly and counsel Don McGahn were already facing questions about why they failed to fire Porter — and, in fact, gave him a bigger role — even though they knew about the allegations for months.

    Before Trump spoke, reports had begun to emerge that he was furious with his team, Kelly in particular, for allegedly not informing him about Porter’s past.

    Trump’s words made those stories seem like self-serving spin. Even if he had been told, he showed the world he would not have much cared.

    His remarks dismayed advocates for victims, who said such a message from the president might have a chilling effect. “When leadership sets a tone of sympathy for those who have abused,” said Joyce Yedlosky, team coordinator for the West Virginia Coalition Against Domestic Violence, “it sets a tone that perhaps victims aren’t believed. It kind of takes us a couple steps back where victims might not be comfortable coming forward.”

    In an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt, Vice-President Mike Pence declared, “There’s no tolerance in this White House, no place in America, for domestic abuse.” He promised to “look into the matter and share my counsel with the president.”

    On the question of this White House’s obvious tolerance for domestic abuse, it is clear, the matter is the president.
    Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 02-09-2018, 06:51 PM.

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      • Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
        You can't even insult right. 9000 post of BS, who is the real loser?

        Without a doubt it’s you.

        Fact remains you’re an uncouth chump who got her feelings upended by a fug’n meme.

        Can’t be any more of a thenthative loser than that fagg.

        Now go find you a different dick to play with sh !t stain.....

        Last edited by BERNIE'S CORNER; 02-09-2018, 07:00 PM.

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        • U.S. SECRETLY NEGOTIATED WITH RUSSIANS TO BUY STOLEN NSA DOCUMENTS — AND THE RUSSIANS OFFERED TRUMP-RELATED MATERIAL, TOO


          THE UNITED STATES intelligence community has been conducting a top-secret operation to recover stolen classified U.S. government documents from Russian operatives, according to sources familiar with the matter. The operation has also inadvertently yielded a cache of documents purporting to relate to Donald Trump and Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

          Over the past year, American intelligence officials have opened a secret communications channel with the Russian operatives, who have been seeking to sell both Trump-related materials and documents stolen from the National Security Agency and obtained by Russian intelligence, according to people involved with the matter and other documentary evidence. The channel started developing in early 2017, when American and Russian intermediaries began meeting in Germany. Eventually, a Russian intermediary, apparently representing some elements of the Russian intelligence community, agreed to a deal to sell stolen NSA documents back to the U.S. while also seeking to include Trump-related materials in the package.

          The CIA declined to comment on the operation. The NSA did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

          The secret U.S. intelligence channel with the Russians is separate from efforts by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele to obtain information about Trump and his ties with Russia. Steele worked with Fusion GPS, an American private investigations firm that was first hired by Republican and later Democratic opponents of Trump to dig up information on him during the 2016 campaign.

          By contrast, the more recent secret negotiations began after Trump’s election and have been conducted by U.S. intelligence officials working with intermediaries who mainly operate in Europe. When American intelligence officials initiated efforts to broker a communications channel in 2017, however, their primary objective was to recover stolen NSA documents, not to obtain material about Trump.

          At the time, the NSA was desperate to recover documents that intelligence officials believed Russia had obtained through a mysterious group known as the Shadow Brokers. The group stole highly secret NSA hacking tools and began releasing them on the internet in the summer of 2016. The Shadow Brokers theft of the hacking tools devastated morale at the NSA, putting its custom-built offensive cyber weapons out in the open. It was as if a bioweapons laboratory had lost some of its most deadly and dangerous viruses. U.S. officials wanted to identify which NSA documents the Shadow Brokers had stolen, so they could determine how badly the agency had been damaged by the theft.

          But once the communications channel opened, the Russians on the other side offered to sell documents related to Trump along with the stolen NSA documents.
          https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/...-election-nsa/

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          • Originally posted by BERNIE'S CORNER View Post
            Without a doubt it’s you.

            Fact remains you’re an uncouth chump who got her feelings upended by a fug’n meme.

            Can’t be any more of a thenthative loser than that fagg.

            Now go find you a different dick to play with sh !t stain.....

            YOU MAD? LOL, You frazzle so easy. Any way FU

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            • Winning is so much better with sore losers.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                How can a Trump supporter have the audacity to cite lying as an issue?

                Trump is the President. That’s why his crimes are the primary ones being discussed. Why would this thread deal with the things you listed-especially since all have either been proven false or are an over exaggeration. Even the Fox News guys have proven a lot of his false or bs.

                Come on man, it is wildly hypocritical for you to see collusion everywhere except Trump. If you see it in the things you listed then you have to see it with Trump.
                Check my post history


                I’m not a simpleton like most on here..

                I criticized trump on collusion.. I will bump it

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  Trump is not handling the Russian sanctions correctly and looks very bad
                  For [MENTION=17205]the_big_dunn
                  Last edited by Sugar Adam Ali; 02-09-2018, 07:33 PM.

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                  • U.S. SECRETLY NEGOTIATED WITH RUSSIANS TO BUY STOLEN NSA DOCUMENTS — AND THE RUSSIANS OFFERED TRUMP-RELATED MATERIAL, TOO


                    THE UNITED STATES intelligence community has been conducting a top-secret operation to recover stolen classified U.S. government documents from Russian operatives, according to sources familiar with the matter. The operation has also inadvertently yielded a cache of documents purporting to relate to Donald Trump and Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

                    Over the past year, American intelligence officials have opened a secret communications channel with the Russian operatives, who have been seeking to sell both Trump-related materials and documents stolen from the National Security Agency and obtained by Russian intelligence, according to people involved with the matter and other documentary evidence. The channel started developing in early 2017, when American and Russian intermediaries began meeting in Germany. Eventually, a Russian intermediary, apparently representing some elements of the Russian intelligence community, agreed to a deal to sell stolen NSA documents back to the U.S. while also seeking to include Trump-related materials in the package.

                    The CIA declined to comment on the operation. The NSA did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

                    The secret U.S. intelligence channel with the Russians is separate from efforts by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele to obtain information about Trump and his ties with Russia. Steele worked with Fusion GPS, an American private investigations firm that was first hired by Republican and later Democratic opponents of Trump to dig up information on him during the 2016 campaign.

                    By contrast, the more recent secret negotiations began after Trump’s election and have been conducted by U.S. intelligence officials working with intermediaries who mainly operate in Europe. When American intelligence officials initiated efforts to broker a communications channel in 2017, however, their primary objective was to recover stolen NSA documents, not to obtain material about Trump.

                    At the time, the NSA was desperate to recover documents that intelligence officials believed Russia had obtained through a mysterious group known as the Shadow Brokers. The group stole highly secret NSA hacking tools and began releasing them on the internet in the summer of 2016. The Shadow Brokers theft of the hacking tools devastated morale at the NSA, putting its custom-built offensive cyber weapons out in the open. It was as if a bioweapons laboratory had lost some of its most deadly and dangerous viruses. U.S. officials wanted to identify which NSA documents the Shadow Brokers had stolen, so they could determine how badly the agency had been damaged by the theft.

                    But once the communications channel opened, the Russians on the other side offered to sell documents related to Trump along with the stolen NSA documents.
                    https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/...-election-nsa/

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                    • Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
                      YOU MAD? LOL, You frazzle so easy. Any way FU

                      Oh you gonna attempt the “you mad” ???

                      Try again street trash.

                      Find that dick yet punk ???

                      Nah.....Go suck a dick.....

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