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The current pathetic version of Tyson Fury is a betting favorite vs Wilder in the US!

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  • #61
    Originally posted by sicko View Post
    Fury Skills won't Diminish because of a Layoff he is not going to all of a sudden Forget How To Box! In Fact, he is at a HUGE ADVANTAGE because he been able to scout and study both of those guys while he been away I'm sure. Too much is being put into his Physique and not his SKILLS! He is more skilled of a boxer than Wilder and AJ COMBINED!

    Quick Turn Around into another Camp after his fight on Saturday to start to prepare for Wilder so I think by the time Wilder fight comes around he is going to be all the way back and in Excellent Shape for that fight
    Such a long lay off will affect his skills because His timing will be off, his speed will not be the same, his punch resistance can go down and he can be mentally struggling when he is hit with adversity in the ring....there is more ways a lay off can affect you than just in a physical way.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
      Such a long lay off will affect his skills because His timing will be off, his speed will not be the same, his punch resistance can go down and he can be mentally struggling when he is hit with adversity in the ring....there is more ways a lay off can affect you than just in a physical way.
      Totally disagree...


      Ray Leonard 3 years off after his Retina Injury, not only did he comeback off of a 3 year Layoff this was his debut fight at 160. Now granted Ray Leonard was special and is a All Time Great but no I don't think Skills Diminish from Long Layoffs. You don't forget how to or unlearn something by simply not doing it for 2-3 years. It is like Driving or Riding a Bike, once you learn it chances are it will likely always come natural to you even if you don't do it for awhile. Same with Boxers and Boxing! Now the Drugs, Drinking and the Weight Gain/Weight Flux yes that could be damaging to your career I'm sure

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      • #63
        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        Totally disagree...


        Ray Leonard 3 years off after his Retina Injury, not only did he comeback off of a 3 year Layoff this was his debut fight at 160. Now granted Ray Leonard was special and is a All Time Great but no I don't think Skills Diminish from Long Layoffs. You don't forget how to or unlearn something by simply not doing it for 2-3 years. It is like Driving or Riding a Bike, once you learn it chances are it will likely always come natural to you even if you don't do it for awhile. Same with Boxers and Boxing! Now the Drugs, Drinking and the Weight Gain/Weight Flux yes that could be damaging to your career I'm sure
        Yep its not only the lay off its also the drugs, drinking and abusing your body that will do Fury alot of harm if he gets in there too soon vs a top heavyweight like Wilder. Leonard was a special fighter...but most fighters are heavily affected by long lay offs especially because their rhytm and timing aint the same anymore in the actual ring...plus that their bodies could break down like Hayes did.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Jubei View Post


          Also: https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing

          How is that even possible? Tyson Fury weighed 380lb and was totally out of the sport just a year ago, he just came back after three years from depression and obesity and put up a pathetic performance vs an absolute nobody cruiserweight in Sefer Seferi.

          He fights the corpse of Francesco Pianeta next, a guy that is ranked #140 at Heavyweight and just got knocked the f. out by the terrible Kevin Johnson.

          And right after that he wants to fight Wilder, this year, without even facing somebody with a pulse, without facing somebody even in the top 50.

          And yet Tyson Fury is the betting favorite at the casinos and oddsmakers - IN WILDERS BACKYARD with all the corrupt judges that had Wilder winning vs Washington and Ortiz where he got totally outboxed

          Is Wilder that bad and overhyped?? According to this forum Wilder is the second coming, seems like the reality is a little bit different.
          So are you going to put your money down? That’s what odds are all about ... you can talk about it, but if you don’t wager your own cash you’re just talking.

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          • #65
            To be honest I wouldnt bet on that fight. Totally unpredictable. If Wilder beats Fury then the chance this year is obviously the highest. Maybe after I see how Fury performs vs Pianeta.

            I would prefer to see Fury vs Wilder next year, after Fury faces at least 2 more opponents, but no total bums like Pianeta, but decent opponents ranked in the top 25. You cant go from facing #140 nobodies to facing the #2 in the division.

            If Fury vs Wilder goes to the cards, I can see that Fury, even if he outboxes Wilder, gets robbed on the cards. Dont forget, the hometown judges scored rounds for Wilder that Ortiz dominated, like a couple early rounds where Ortiz dominated and after 8 rounds, before the knockout, the hometown judges had Wilder actually winning the fight 85:84. That is just laughable.



            Also the judges scored Wilder vs Washington 38:38, 38:38 and 39:37 for Wilder after 4 rounds in a fight that Washington easily outboxed Wilder and won at least 3 out of the 4 rounds.

            So either Wilder lands the bomb on Fury and Fury is out, or Fury outboxes Wilder and then he gets robbed or doesnt get robbed on the cards.

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