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Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread
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Originally posted by beez721 View Posthes a hell of alot bigger than cunningham. yes,,,fury improved since then but saying fury is too big is just ridiculous. he often gives up his height and povetkin would have no trouble banging the body and head. I think fury would give him some fits in the early to mid rounds but povetkin would get to him late. povetkin is smaller but hes the bigger puncher and has better technique
EDIT: I meant 'on point' though the mistake has a certain humour to it.Last edited by Fury4daWIN; 10-20-2015, 06:56 AM.
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Cunningham is a class fighter, for example, if Wilder was to beat him, he would be his best ever win.
Look at some of his recent opponents;
1) Amir Mansour, a much bigger man, and USS knocked him down, the only man to do so to my knowledge
2) Natu Visini, an unbeaten prospect at the time, Steve schooled him
3) Vyacheslav Glazkov, although he didn't get the decision, most neutrals thought that Steve did enough to win and clearly outworked the bigger man. Glazkov is now ranked #2 by the IBF behind Wlad, and is his mandatory.
4) Antonio Tarver, again most neutrals thought that USS did enough to get the decision, and Tarver was roided up to the gills at the time. It should be another W in the column.
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Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust View PostOrtiz, being 37 years old, moves incredibly well, he has amazing technique, is very very slick considering his size.
Fury ,almost surely, wouldn't dare switching ot southpaw more than a couple of minutes against Ortiz, he would get badly outboxed. Fighting orthodox, he would have to keep him at bay with jabs that wouldn't (fully) land. I can hardly imagine Fury hitting Ortiz with straight shots, he would have to lean forwards to land on him.
Ortiz, with his crazy 213cm reach, slickness and amazing Cuban technique, would give Fury headaches fighting in an ambush style. And at least, he is in shape contrary to Solis...
I would even say that Ortiz would have to make less adjusments against Fury than Klitschko.
Klitschko, at a certain point of this fight, will have to bring the energy he brought against Pulev, Wach and Haye. He'll have to stay very alert and literally go to war with Fury. He can definitely do it but he has a lot of adjustments to do.
What's his best win? Lateef Kayode? Monte Barrett? Hardly anything to go on.
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Originally posted by denium View PostCunningham is a class fighter, for example, if Wilder was to beat him, he would be his best ever win.
Look at some of his recent opponents;
1) Amir Mansour, a much bigger man, and USS knocked him down, the only man to do so to my knowledge
2) Natu Visini, an unbeaten prospect at the time, Steve schooled him
3) Vyacheslav Glazkov, although he didn't get the decision, most neutrals thought that Steve did enough to win and clearly outworked the bigger man. Glazkov is now ranked #2 by the IBF behind Wlad, and is his mandatory.
4) Antonio Tarver, again most neutrals thought that USS did enough to get the decision, and Tarver was roided up to the gills at the time. It should be another W in the column.
The facts are, he's still the only man to beat Mansour (and knock him down), the first to beat Huck, and one of only two men to knock down Tyson Fury. His quality speaks for itself.
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Originally posted by denium View PostSince the Cunningham fight, Fury has not lost a round against anybody, at all.
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Originally posted by billeau2 View PostCunningham has a better punch than Povatkin. Povatkin fights a lot like his Eastern European fellow countrymen, a style I would characterize as somewhat mobile, an emphasis on activity, with very little head movement... yes Povatkin can bang a little better than most of these other fellows, BUT Cunningham is a puncher and punches a lot harder than Povatkin.
Thats not to say it wouldn't be a decent scrap Fury against Povatkin. But the notion that Povatkin is a big puncher is rubbish... at least compared to Cunningham, who had some of the best chins in boxing on the ropes.
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Originally posted by Fury4daWIN View PostI don't mean that Abell was competitive with him. I mean that Fury fought stupidly against him (leaving himself open, swinging for the fences etc), especially since Abell can punch.
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Yeah to echo others, this new version of Povetkin definitely punches harder than Cunningham. Fury still beats him though, too big, too strong, too furious.
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Originally posted by denium View PostAbell can punch, and managed to load a few bombs on Fury in brawl mode. Fury took the punches well. His chin is not as bad as people say. For example, if Abell landed that same left hand on David Price's jaw, Price would've been on the floor twitching.
In the same way that Wlad panics when he gets hit, Fury's punch resistance isn't entirely down to physiognomy.
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