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  • #21
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    I don't know how you can put this on ppv with a UK start time. Joshua/klitchko aired in april and still didn't pull great ratings for showtime. By Sept football is back in full swing which is the worst time to air a afternoon Sat fight. Nobody is having a ppv party that early when 40 football games all flooded in numerous US city stadiums and a dozen of then airing live all day on cable and national TV. Only money it is making on PPV is from the UK. Most casual fans have no clue who Joshua is and even if you tell them it's some big unification fight they are not picking boxing over football at a awkward time of the day. It needs to be in Vegas at night if you want to maximize the US audience. Any day ppv especially in Sept would flop bad.
    Am sure they are more focused on selling the fight to the UK PPV buyers, Wilder has never sold anything in america so no point focusing on that then.

    Like you said no one knows who AJ is over there, so the people that wants to see the fight over there would have to do what UK fight fans do when watching american PPV.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
      Joshua-Klitschko was on at 2 in the afternoon and the viewership got over 650k homes, with HBO topping 850k on the replay.

      Folks will say what they want, but the rating for Joshua-Wilder, even at 2pm, will likely top the Klitschko number, and if the fight is as dynamic as folks expect, the stage is set for a massive PPV fight in early 2019 from Las Vegas (750k homes should be quite possible).
      Of course it would do a massive rating on SHO, but DAZN would likely be willing to pay so much more than SHO that it would be difficult for SHO to get the fight. If the fight gets signed, Hearn will be allowed to sell the fight to the highest bidder.


      Joshua fighting on a platform that may get 200k subscribers in the US does nothing to boost fights for Joshua going forward.
      Gotta start somewhere. AJ vs Wilder maximizes the amount of early adopters in a way very few fights could. You can argue all you want about what's best for AJ, but if AJ's best interest is what Hearn was focused on, AJ would have accepted the 50 million.

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      • #23
        If Hearn and Co. are more focused on selling the fight to UK PPV fans, why would they care about a Canelo fight? I'm pretty sure UK fans would be more focused on an AJ-Wilder fight than a Canelo-TBD fight, which would have a much later start time anyway....

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        • #24
          canelo vs tba wont be on ppv in the uk, and aj vs wilder wont be in ppv in the US.. so it makes little difference ...

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          • #25
            "Poach"? Are you saying that because Alvarez is Mexican, he owns Mexican Independence Day? WTF??

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            • #26
              ... some of you don't even read the news: Hearn said that if Canelo fights in Sep. they will move later (Oct., Nov.)

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              • #27
                Originally posted by xhiddenx87 View Post
                If it is in the uk, why it would suffer?

                Whoever fights that day will only be gettin more views since a it would be a follopup from the joshua -wilder fight
                even if its in the US, i believe its not gonna suffer. if canelo is not fighting ggg in sept, i dont think anyone gives a damm about it.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  Of course it would do a massive rating on SHO, but DAZN would likely be willing to pay so much more than SHO that it would be difficult for SHO to get the fight. If the fight gets signed, Hearn will be allowed to sell the fight to the highest bidder.




                  Gotta start somewhere. AJ vs Wilder maximizes the amount of early adopters in a way very few fights could. You can argue all you want about what's best for AJ, but if AJ's best interest is what Hearn was focused on, AJ would have accepted the 50 million.
                  Will agree to disagree.

                  Wilder-Joshua from Las Vegas is arguably the biggest event that either fighter can look towards; a monster gate at T-Mobile Arena, north of 1m homes on Sky Box Office, and 1m homes on SHOPPV isn't out of the question either, imo.

                  A billion dollars, over 8 years, to deliver 250 shows, is a lot of money, but let's acknowledge context here

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    Wilder-Joshua from Las Vegas is arguably the biggest event that either fighter can look towards; a monster gate at T-Mobile Arena, north of 1m homes on Sky Box Office, and 1m homes on SHOPPV isn't out of the question either, imo.
                    Agree completely. But we aren't talking about Wilder-Joshua from Las Vegas. We are talking about Wilder-Joshua from the UK, shown in the US in the afternoon.

                    What was the last successful US PPV taking place in the UK?

                    Hearn claims DAZN is willing to spend for quarterly "monster" shows that would normally be on PPV otherwise. Let's see if he's telling the truth.

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