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Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 because he was shook by the 147 division heating up?

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  • Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
    When you resort to those kind of replies, it means you don't have the answers. Again:

    If JMM can move up from 135 to 147 to fight Floyd, why is it so ridiculous to suggest Floyd moving up a weight division or two?

    If Greb moved up 25 pounds to fight Tunney, if SRR moved up to fight LaMotta, why is it unthinkable for Floyd to move up 5 pounds to fight Kostya in 2002??

    If a man shorter than Floyd (Sam Langford) fought heavyweights, why couldn't Floyd fight men his own size when they were in their prime??

    Why did Floyd duck a man his own size Mosley in 2007 when Shane was still good and go for the smaller, reach-challenged Hatton?
    One more time: Are you saying Floyd ducked Tszyu in the year 2000? If so, please explain the circumstances surrounding this period that lead you to say so.

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    • Originally posted by josenoway View Post
      lol, no he isn't. He was 150 against Ortiz, 151 against Cotto. Nappiao was at the 147 max for his weigh in for Marquez 4. Much bigger? lmao.
      Then why couldn't Floyd make 140 for the fight with Hatton in 2007?

      Why did Hatton have to move up to 147?

      Floyd agreed to a catchweight of 145 to fight the 135 pound champ Marquez, but he couldn't make it and came in at 147.

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      • Pacquiao has always outweighed Marquez on fight night. Again, you really need to check your facts.

        Are you still refusing to answer questions?

        Pacquiao sought a fight with Cotto AFTER Mayweather beat him in 2012. He wouldn't do it without a catchweight. That was only 7lbs and he'd already beaten Cotto once... with a catchweight (which didn't matter, of course). If the catchweight didn't matter, why ask for it... then why ask for it again?

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        • Wow 109 - 14 i think its clear lol.

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          • Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
            Did Floyd fight get the 135 champ Marquez to fight him at 147?

            Did Marquez move up two divisions?

            10 pound difference between 130 and 140.
            12 pound difference between 135 and 147.

            16 pound difference between SRR and Lamotta.
            25 pound difference between 160 and 175 when Greb moved up and fought Tunney.

            Moving up ten pounds would have been nothing for REAL warriors like Langford, Greb, and Armstrong.

            But I realize since Floyd is a pussy, he isn't expected to do so. He'll never go to 160 and fight Martinez...
            Langford and Greb were of the same day weigh in era. Marquez routinely weighed in at welterweight on fight night for most his fights.

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            • Originally posted by Marvellous1 View Post
              Pacquiao has always outweighed Marquez on fight night. Again, you really need to check your facts.

              Are you still refusing to answer questions?

              Pacquiao sought a fight with Cotto AFTER Mayweather beat him in 2012. He wouldn't do it without a catchweight. That was only 7lbs and he'd already beaten Cotto once... with a catchweight (which didn't matter, of course). If the catchweight didn't matter, why ask for it... then why ask for it again?
              This thread isn't about Pacquaio, who was fighting bigger men.

              It's about Floyd Mayweather going into hiding in 2007 when there were a lot of good prime fighters in his weight division.

              Even when he returned in 2009, he fought a 135 pound opponent.

              It wasn't until 2010 until Floyd felt secure about Mosley being sufficiently faded, and then he agreed to a fight.

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              • Because he was the reigning WBC 147 and 154 champ? His fight before Hatton was at 154 against DLH.

                Hatton didn't 'have to' move up. In fact, he'd ALREADY moved up to 147 previously to fight Collazo for the WBA 147 title.

                Marquez was a tune-up, he hadn't been in the ring for nearly 2 years, cry all you want about the missed weight limit but it wasn't a title fight and had little meaning. He went in there and dusted off ring rust.

                Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                Then why couldn't Floyd make 140 for the fight with Hatton in 2007?

                Why did Hatton have to move up to 147?

                Floyd agreed to a catchweight of 145 to fight the 135 pound champ Marquez, but he couldn't make it and came in at 147.

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                • LOL, not even remotely true. He was calling out Shane years ago, how could anyone not remember 'Tooth-gate'.

                  Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                  This thread isn't about Pacquaio, who was fighting bigger men.

                  It's about Floyd Mayweather going into hiding in 2007 when there were a lot of good prime fighters in his weight division.

                  Even when he returned in 2009, he fought a 135 pound opponent.

                  It wasn't until 2010 until Floyd felt secure about Mosley being sufficiently faded, and then he agreed to a fight.

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                  • Originally posted by V.WEBB View Post
                    The guy has YET to fight a fighter promoted by Bob Arum. Think about that.
                    How could he when he was taking long vacations then we had the Manny vs Floyd saga for 3+ years? Think about that.

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                    • Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                      This thread isn't about Pacquaio, who was fighting bigger men.

                      It's about Floyd Mayweather going into hiding in 2007 when there were a lot of good prime fighters in his weight division.

                      Even when he returned in 2009, he fought a 135 pound opponent.

                      It wasn't until 2010 until Floyd felt secure about Mosley being sufficiently faded, and then he agreed to a fight.
                      Translate: "I don't have an answer to your question".

                      You've made statements about Mayweather avoiding Tszyu which are without foundation and utterly ridiculous. When asked to provide an actual circumstance and opportunity for such a fight, you can't and start talking about Harry Greb et al. He has as much to do with this thread as Pacquiao. We're both making anaolgies. If you don't want other fighters discussed, don't bring them up.

                      You also stated Mayweather ducked Mosley in '07, and I've told you twice that in '06, Mosley didn't want to know. He had the chance but ironically it was MOSLEY that went on vacation. Acknowledge it as it's true. The fight could've happened sooner than even you suggest and the reason it didn't is because of one person. Mosley.

                      Mayweather wasn't the only person to bring marquez up to welterweight. Pacquiao did too? how did that go again?

                      Lastly, Team Hatton were happy to move up to 147lbs. They wanted to fight the likes of Carlos maussa in '05 when Mayweather was at 140lbs. Moving up, they had a built in excuse for losing and Hatton still kept his 140lbs ring title. They wanted to beat the number one P4P fighter in the world and risk as little as possible trying. Did you know, Hatton actually wanted to fight Gatti instead. They were praying that he'd beat Baldomir. I remember Billy Graham looking like a smacked backside in the studio when that went up in smoke. LOL

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