Originally posted by Freedom.
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Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 because he was shook by the 147 division heating up?
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Originally posted by josenoway View Postlol, no he isn't. He was 150 against Ortiz, 151 against Cotto. Nappiao was at the 147 max for his weigh in for Marquez 4. Much bigger? lmao.
Why did Hatton have to move up to 147?
Floyd agreed to a catchweight of 145 to fight the 135 pound champ Marquez, but he couldn't make it and came in at 147.
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Pacquiao has always outweighed Marquez on fight night. Again, you really need to check your facts.
Are you still refusing to answer questions?
Pacquiao sought a fight with Cotto AFTER Mayweather beat him in 2012. He wouldn't do it without a catchweight. That was only 7lbs and he'd already beaten Cotto once... with a catchweight (which didn't matter, of course). If the catchweight didn't matter, why ask for it... then why ask for it again?
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Originally posted by Freedom. View PostDid Floyd fight get the 135 champ Marquez to fight him at 147?
Did Marquez move up two divisions?
10 pound difference between 130 and 140.
12 pound difference between 135 and 147.
16 pound difference between SRR and Lamotta.
25 pound difference between 160 and 175 when Greb moved up and fought Tunney.
Moving up ten pounds would have been nothing for REAL warriors like Langford, Greb, and Armstrong.
But I realize since Floyd is a pussy, he isn't expected to do so. He'll never go to 160 and fight Martinez...
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Originally posted by Marvellous1 View PostPacquiao has always outweighed Marquez on fight night. Again, you really need to check your facts.
Are you still refusing to answer questions?
Pacquiao sought a fight with Cotto AFTER Mayweather beat him in 2012. He wouldn't do it without a catchweight. That was only 7lbs and he'd already beaten Cotto once... with a catchweight (which didn't matter, of course). If the catchweight didn't matter, why ask for it... then why ask for it again?
It's about Floyd Mayweather going into hiding in 2007 when there were a lot of good prime fighters in his weight division.
Even when he returned in 2009, he fought a 135 pound opponent.
It wasn't until 2010 until Floyd felt secure about Mosley being sufficiently faded, and then he agreed to a fight.
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Because he was the reigning WBC 147 and 154 champ? His fight before Hatton was at 154 against DLH.
Hatton didn't 'have to' move up. In fact, he'd ALREADY moved up to 147 previously to fight Collazo for the WBA 147 title.
Marquez was a tune-up, he hadn't been in the ring for nearly 2 years, cry all you want about the missed weight limit but it wasn't a title fight and had little meaning. He went in there and dusted off ring rust.
Originally posted by Freedom. View PostThen why couldn't Floyd make 140 for the fight with Hatton in 2007?
Why did Hatton have to move up to 147?
Floyd agreed to a catchweight of 145 to fight the 135 pound champ Marquez, but he couldn't make it and came in at 147.
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LOL, not even remotely true. He was calling out Shane years ago, how could anyone not remember 'Tooth-gate'.
Originally posted by Freedom. View PostThis thread isn't about Pacquaio, who was fighting bigger men.
It's about Floyd Mayweather going into hiding in 2007 when there were a lot of good prime fighters in his weight division.
Even when he returned in 2009, he fought a 135 pound opponent.
It wasn't until 2010 until Floyd felt secure about Mosley being sufficiently faded, and then he agreed to a fight.
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Originally posted by Freedom. View PostThis thread isn't about Pacquaio, who was fighting bigger men.
It's about Floyd Mayweather going into hiding in 2007 when there were a lot of good prime fighters in his weight division.
Even when he returned in 2009, he fought a 135 pound opponent.
It wasn't until 2010 until Floyd felt secure about Mosley being sufficiently faded, and then he agreed to a fight.
You've made statements about Mayweather avoiding Tszyu which are without foundation and utterly ridiculous. When asked to provide an actual circumstance and opportunity for such a fight, you can't and start talking about Harry Greb et al. He has as much to do with this thread as Pacquiao. We're both making anaolgies. If you don't want other fighters discussed, don't bring them up.
You also stated Mayweather ducked Mosley in '07, and I've told you twice that in '06, Mosley didn't want to know. He had the chance but ironically it was MOSLEY that went on vacation. Acknowledge it as it's true. The fight could've happened sooner than even you suggest and the reason it didn't is because of one person. Mosley.
Mayweather wasn't the only person to bring marquez up to welterweight. Pacquiao did too? how did that go again?
Lastly, Team Hatton were happy to move up to 147lbs. They wanted to fight the likes of Carlos maussa in '05 when Mayweather was at 140lbs. Moving up, they had a built in excuse for losing and Hatton still kept his 140lbs ring title. They wanted to beat the number one P4P fighter in the world and risk as little as possible trying. Did you know, Hatton actually wanted to fight Gatti instead. They were praying that he'd beat Baldomir. I remember Billy Graham looking like a smacked backside in the studio when that went up in smoke. LOL
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