Top 5 P4P Ranking

[The Old LefHook]

All the lists so far are quite uninformed.


Robinson
Duran
Walker
Armstrong
Langford

[Canelo and GGG]

All the lists so far are quite uninformed.


Robinson
Duran
Walker
Armstrong
Langford

Why do you think that your is the best ?

[soul_survivor]

Haven't seen a thread like this, which I'm very surprised about, so I'm probably looking in the wrong place.

Anyways, as the title says... Pound for Pound, top 5.

Here's mine;

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammed Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Roy Jones Jr
5. Rocky Marciano

Post yours

There have been quite a lot of threads like this but I'm always up for one more.

If we're strictly speaking P4P, who could beat who, regardless of weight, then Marciano being included is a bit of a bad joke. If we were looking at overall greatness, which would include p4p, head to head, overall career, world championship, reign, opponent beaten etc then I can understand Marciano being regarded as a top 30 or so ATG.

But purely on a p4p basis...no. Just no.

My list would be:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Sugar Ray Leonard
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Willie Pep

Now obviously this is off the top of my head without too much thought on the matter but these are the names I think of when I think of p4p, i.e. the guys who would be able to transfer their skills, athleticism, grit, toughness, durability to any weight division if size was not an issue.

[Anthony342]

Robinson
Armstrong
Greb
Louis
Charles

[joeandthebums]

Robinson
Charles
Louis
Armstrong

The other spot is between most of names others have posted.

[JAB5239]

Langford
Greg
Robinson
Armstrong
Charles

[harry-greb]

1. greb
2. greb
3. greb
4. greb
5. greb

[The Old LefHook]

Greb
Walker
Duran
Pep
Marciano

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Robinson, Greb, Gans without question Charles and Armstrong for the last two slots.

[The Old LefHook]

What was Charles' greatest accomplishment? Was it losing closely to Marciano once and being KO'd next time? Or was it consistently beating a much smaller Charley Burley and an aged Archie Moore? Maybe it was outboxing a balding Joe Louis for the heavyweight title that Walcott knocked Ez cold to capture? He did well against Walcott in their four matches, but never scored a KO, while receiving one from the dancing master.

He seems to be enjoying a rennaissance around here in respect, though he has always been respected yet he has always been said to be underrated. Top 5 all time is very high indeed. Since so many people have put him in their list, maybe someone could explain without vitriol why they think he deserves a spot among fighters who beat many more great fighters than he did.