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So it turns out Saunders hasn't broken WADA rules, a lot of you owe him an apology.

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  • #41
    Yes in the eyes of the British Boxing Board of Control, WADA and the UKAD Billy Joe Saunders may very well be innocent but it is not their call to make. It is out of their jurisdictions.

    This isn't a European or a British jurisdiction who are going to decide his fate. We are talking about an American jurisdiction here; Where the fight is being held.

    So far he has neither been exonerated or been let off the hook by either VADA, the WBO or MSAC. He still has to answer to these charges and ultimately those organizations are going to be the ones who decide his fate.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
      Yes in the eyes of the British Boxing Board of Control, WADA and the UKAD Billy Joe Saunders may very well be innocent but it is not their call to make. It is out of their jurisdictions.

      This isn't a European or a British jurisdiction who are going to decide his fate. We are talking about an American jurisdiction here; Where the fight is being held.

      So far he has neither been exonerated or been let off the hook by either VADA, the WBO or MSAC. He still has to answer to these charges and ultimately those organizations are going to be the ones who decide his fate.
      Butthurt much

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      • #43
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        Yes in the eyes of the British Boxing Board of Control, WADA and the UKAD Billy Joe Saunders may very well be innocent but it is not their call to make. It is out of their jurisdictions.

        This isn't a European or a British jurisdiction who are going to decide his fate. We are talking about an American jurisdiction here; Where the fight is being held.

        So far he has neither been exonerated or been let off the hook by either VADA, the WBO or MSAC. He still has to answer to these charges and ultimately those organizations are going to be the ones who decide his fate.
        They follow the WADA code. WADA code says he's innocent. WADA is the worldwide standard for drug testing.

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        • #44
          Seems he broke VADA though, and we still need to see how he comes up on the second sample right? Conte seems to believe BJS is still highly suspicious.

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          • #45
            he failed VADA. Andrade's camp apparently put VADA testing in the contract because he was suspicious of BJS and BOOM, BJS gets popped.

            I don't care what the UKAD says, that it doesn't matter unless it's day of the fight. That's stupid. Strip Him and move on.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Jubei View Post
              Oxilofrine is thought to increase adrenaline production, boosting endurance, power, focus, alertness and heart rate and increasing oxygenation of the blood, its also useful to accelerate weight loss.

              Tyson Gay and Asafa Powell, two of the fastest 100m sprinters ever have been banned for Oxilofrine:

              https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ell-oxilofrine

              UKAD (UK Anti Doping) allows these substances to be taken even during training camps, their "out of competition" banned list is extremely short.

              But out of competition testing for UKAD literally means until 12 hours (yes hours, not days, or weeks) before the fight. In Competition testing only starts at actual fight night!



              https://ukad.org.uk/our-organisation...ng-programmes/

              Very potent PEDs like Oxilofrine get only tested for on the night of the fight. During training camp up until the morning of the fight basically anything goes. Oxilofrene and other stimulating and very potent drugs are known for a very short half life of less than 24 hours so they are nearly impossible to detect by a regular blood or urine test.

              UK Anti Doping owes all of us an apology, they are a big fat joke. They dont test for anything out of competition and in competition testing is only on fight night? Thats laughable!
              the WBC has a world champion in every weight class, and I just noticed that not a single one of them comes out of the UK...and there hasn't been one since the WBC started their clean boxing program.

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              • #47
                Average Joe is a twat.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by The Ox View Post
                  Butthurt much
                  In what way? I just laid the truth out for you. The BBBoc or the UKAD has nothing to do with this case because the fight venue is not being held in Britain but in the United States; the MSAC to be exact, where they have the ultimate jurisdiction to make such a determination based off the followings, findings and report of VADA.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    Yes in the eyes of the British Boxing Board of Control, WADA and the UKAD Billy Joe Saunders may very well be innocent but it is not their call to make. It is out of their jurisdictions.

                    This isn't a European or a British jurisdiction who are going to decide his fate. We are talking about an American jurisdiction here; Where the fight is being held.

                    So far he has neither been exonerated or been let off the hook by either VADA, the WBO or MSAC. He still has to answer to these charges and ultimately those organizations are going to be the ones who decide his fate.
                    yeah people dont seem to have understood this ^ the UKAD rules dont mean anything. its VADA who busted him, i dont think they would bother including VADA testing if they were just going to disregard their testing protocol

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                    • #50
                      Tainted meat doe?

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