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Fury Confirms He Is the Man To Beat, Schools AJ On Lineal Champion History!!!
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Originally posted by SuperHanz View PostNobody is more juiced up than your boy AJ. But yeah, Fury is still recognised as the lineal champion by the majority of the boxing industry/media.
It is what it is, if Joshua wants to be known as the best, he'll have to get in the ring and prove it by actually fighting one of the best men in the division, not fat bums like Miller and shot midgets like Povetkin.
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Originally posted by SuperHanz View PostWho said anything about rankings?
The boxing networks which are more important/followed than bull**** alphabet orgs and they all call Fury the lineal champion. Showtime, ESPN etc.
TBRB
CBZ
The Ring
Even ESPN don't have him lineal.
ESPN rankings.
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...ision-division
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostWho's talking about orgs? No independent rankings have Fury as lineal
TBRB
CBZ
The Ring
Even ESPN don't have him lineal.
ESPN rankings.
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...ision-division
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Originally posted by SuperHanz View PostAny articles from ESPN/Showtime etc will call Fury the lineal champion, I'm on my phone so cba screen grabbing, but happy to do so later
Their rankings don't have him lineal. ESPN/Showtime both have an agenda, Showtime called him lineal to promote the Wilder fight, ESPN now promote him. Majority of historians and experts don't recognise him, the history books will say vacated. You keep living in your little hype bubble.
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Ok lets have a look.
Recent article from Ring magazine, refers to Fury as the lineal champ - https://www.******.com/552265-deonta...r-may-or-june/
Recent article from PBC, refers to Fury as the lineal champ - https://www.premierboxingchampions.c...ear-award-2018
Recent article from ESPN, refers to him as the lineal champ - http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...moted-top-rankLast edited by denium; 02-23-2019, 03:54 AM.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostStupidest thing I've ever heard.
Lineage is established (again) when #1 fights #2 if the lineage is vacant. That was established when Klitschko fought Chagaev officially, even though that was bs since Vitali was #2 at the time, but could be argued that lineage was established in a few Wladimir Klitschko fights subsequently.
In any case, Fury's lineage is considered legit, however, it doesn't go very long back. It doesn't go back to john l sullivan like he says. not at all.
Mate, it's right there under 'lineal championship' on Wiki.
In combat sports where champions are decided by a challenge, the lineal championship of a weight class is a world championship title held initially by an undisputed champion and subsequently by a fighter who defeats the reigning champion in a match at that weight class.
Wlad was NEVER undisputed and therefore never lineal. Did he ever get marketed as lineal champion?
Was he considered 'the man'? Yes, but only because Vitali retired. But the man and lineal are, or should be considered separate things IMO.
The true lineal champion will be decided between a fight between AJ and Wilder with all the recognised gold on the line. That's when a new lineage will start just like Marciano to Patterson.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostThat's down to the article writers.
Their rankings don't have him lineal. ESPN/Showtime both have an agenda, Showtime called him lineal to promote the Wilder fight, ESPN now promote him. Majority of historians and experts don't recognise him, the history books will say vacated. You keep living in your little hype bubble.
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