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Old 07-13-2009, 08:08 AM #21
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idk guys but i think hes faster than manny now! amir khan is as fast as 130 pounder pacquiao! watch morales pacquiao 1 and amir khan vs barrera! DAMN! i think manny lost a little bit of his speed but hes power increased! i hope roach helps amir to toughen amirs chin!
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Amir is fast but still very raw with too many flaws.He still doesnt know how to move his head.If you watch when Roach is teaching Khan to role under Amir is still very amatuerish in his manner and if he meets a good boxer he will be taken apart.One thing we obviously cant take away is his speed but speed without the other attributes will get you so far.

The good thing is he is improving.
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pacquiao is #1 p4p right now because of his speed and power. they even references his speed in WWE when someone tries to be fast, that's how fast he's considered. Merchant says nobody can see his punches and Lampley says he's blindingly fast. How can we disagree? He's dropping people left and right by punches they don't see coming. He threw a HOOK faster than hatton threw his straight right which he even ducked under AFTER landing the hook. That's insane logistics. There's no way you can go against Pacquiao right now for speed. If you do, your biased or a Pac hater without a doubt. BTW enough with this Judah ****, the guy is a C class bum who hasn't done **** in his career. Fast hands? I must of missed them because they are sooo fast during his legendary wins.
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pacquiao is #1 p4p right now because of his speed and power. they even references his speed in WWE when someone tries to be fast, that's how fast he's considered. Merchant says nobody can see his punches and Lampley says he's blindingly fast. How can we disagree? He's dropping people left and right by punches they don't see coming. He threw a HOOK faster than hatton threw his straight right which he even ducked under AFTER landing the hook. That's insane logistics. There's no way you can go against Pacquiao right now for speed. If you do, your biased or a Pac hater without a doubt. BTW enough with this Judah ****, the guy is a C class bum who hasn't done **** in his career. Fast hands? I must of missed them because they are sooo fast during his legendary wins.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:20 AM #25
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pacquiao is #1 p4p right now because of his speed and power. they even references his speed in WWE when someone tries to be fast, that's how fast he's considered. Merchant says nobody can see his punches and Lampley says he's blindingly fast. How can we disagree? He's dropping people left and right by punches they don't see coming. He threw a HOOK faster than hatton threw his straight right which he even ducked under AFTER landing the hook. That's insane logistics. There's no way you can go against Pacquiao right now for speed. If you do, your biased or a Pac hater without a doubt. BTW enough with this Judah ****, the guy is a C class bum who hasn't done **** in his career. Fast hands? I must of missed them because they are sooo fast during his legendary wins.
No disrespect to Pacquiao,he's fast no doubt but Judah is super fast.Mayweather is also very fast and Mosley is very fast.Just for your information Marquez could see Manny's shots.

It is not appropriate to say Judah is a C Class fighter because he's not.All his recent losses came against credible people,against people we dont even think Pacquiao could beat.I'm not sure Pacquiao could beat Clotttey neither can you be sure that he will beat Cotto and what about Mayweather?It is unfair to label a guy who has lost to the best boxers as a C Class fighter.If Judah is a C Class fighter I wonder what Pacquao would gain by fighting Cotto.Cotto really made it when he beat Judah and Mosley.No one gets credit for beating a C Class fighter.

The Merchant you mentioned is also the same person who said 'Manny Pacquiao has emerged as the second most exciting fighter after Mayweather'.Food for thought
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:30 AM #26
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pacquiao is #1 p4p right now because of his speed and power. they even references his speed in WWE when someone tries to be fast, that's how fast he's considered. Merchant says nobody can see his punches and Lampley says he's blindingly fast. How can we disagree? He's dropping people left and right by punches they don't see coming. He threw a HOOK faster than hatton threw his straight right which he even ducked under AFTER landing the hook. That's insane logistics. There's no way you can go against Pacquiao right now for speed. If you do, your biased or a Pac hater without a doubt. BTW enough with this Judah ****, the guy is a C class bum who hasn't done **** in his career. Fast hands? I must of missed them because they are sooo fast during his legendary wins.
one thing about that hatton shot...that was planned damn near 2 weeks before...if you watched 24/7...there was a part where hatton and mayweather sr are laughing at pac on tv cause they say he's doing the same right hook, duck under and right hook...it was exactly what was happening when hatton got ko'ed...pac just couldn't finish it...

i'm not trying to take anything away from pac...dude is a great fighter...but we have no idea about him until he fights some legit welterweights...sure he'd look great against DLH and hatton...the first thing mayweather sr said was that hatton had no defense and he would get clobbered if he ran in like that...exactly what happened...i can't chunk that up to speed...i can chunk it up to timing tho...sure you need speed for it...but if someone has your game plan...things become a lot easier for them...pac throws wide looping punches...lately he's tightened them up...he never moved his head too much...that's why JMM caught him with so many crazy shots...but pac did the exact same thing and got the best of him...

i called mayweather the fastest because he could get shots off before...during...and after an individual throws a punch...pac does the same...but unlike mayweather...if the opponent sees it...they can jump out the way and reset...

zab judah is a special case...to me he is one of the most inconsistent fighters ever...seems like after the first 4 rounds...he damn near gives up...he was beating floyd's ass for the first 3...then he stopped throwing...it's like he's bipolar...but the one thing he was doing was beating floyd to the punch...but floyd turned it up and zab got quiet...you can see this in a lot of his fights...he was whooping kostya tszyu's ass before he suffered the worst knockout in boxing history...****...other than cory spinks ****ty ass...he only suffered losses from great fighters...call him a bum...but dude can throw a punch quicker than most out there...
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pacquiao is #1 p4p right now because of his speed and power. they even references his speed in WWE when someone tries to be fast, that's how fast he's considered. Merchant says nobody can see his punches and Lampley says he's blindingly fast. How can we disagree? He's dropping people left and right by punches they don't see coming. He threw a HOOK faster than hatton threw his straight right which he even ducked under AFTER landing the hook. That's insane logistics. There's no way you can go against Pacquiao right now for speed. If you do, your biased or a Pac hater without a doubt. BTW enough with this Judah ****, the guy is a C class bum who hasn't done **** in his career. Fast hands? I must of missed them because they are sooo fast during his legendary wins.
Really? That is interesting. So why does Roach say Khan is faster i wonder?
I want Hatton to come out and comment on Pacs speed and abilities. I want to know if Hatton thinks Pac performed as a No1 p4p should do?
I want to know if Hatton thinks Pac is much better than he originally believed him to be?
I want Hatton to really give pac his dues!
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idk guys but i think hes faster than manny now! amir khan is as fast as 130 pounder pacquiao! watch morales pacquiao 1 and amir khan vs barrera! DAMN! i think manny lost a little bit of his speed but hes power increased! i hope roach helps amir to toughen amirs chin!
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Amir has taken the power off his shots thats why he looks so fast, he is not punching with maximum power anymore, because to punch with power you have to turn your punches over more and stay in range longer to generate the power and Amir has had a bad experience trying to trade leather before, so he has resorted to pitty patting and moving over after he has finished up his combination's.

Most fighters can look fast if they are not putting power into their shots, Meldrick Taylor used to throw pitty pat combos and look Super fast but there was nothing on his punches.

Khan used to punch with power and speed but now he is only punching with speed from long range so he does not get drawn in.

Pacquaio punches with speed and power, there is a huge difference.
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Amir has taken the power off his shots thats why he looks so fast, he is not punching with maximum power anymore, because to punch with power you have to turn your punches over more and stay in range longer to generate the power and Amir has had a bad experience trying to trade leather before, so he has resorted to pitty patting and moving over after he has finished up his combination's.

Most fighters can look fast if they are not putting power into their shots, Meldrick Taylor used to throw pitty pat combos and look Super fast but there was nothing on his punches.

Khan used to punch with power and speed but now he is only punching with speed from long range so he does not get drawn in.

Pacquaio punches with speed and power, there is a huge difference.
I wouldn't say that Khan pitty pats. He has decent power and is by no means pillow fisted. He relies on his speed and accuracy to force stoppages. So while he doesn't have one punch KO power, he has enough to warrant an opponents attention.
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