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Old 09-10-2017, 01:52 AM #11
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People are dummies thats why....
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:12 AM #12
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That should be 3 losses in a row for Gonzalez. He took a L against Cuadras in my opinion. HBO's endless hype convinced you that a guy with no defense and no power beyond 112 lbs was the best p4p in boxing and even more crazy....better than Floyd! Props to Sor Rungvisai
Dude Floyd just went 10 rounds with a 0-0 amateur and lost 3 rounds in the process. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take Roman 10 rounds to stop an amateur.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:12 AM #13
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Depends how you look at it and your agenda though. Would a guy who claims to be the best ever go life and death with Maidana and also possibly lose to Castillo?

For the record, i consider Floyd one of the very best of all time. I'm just saying you can spin things however you want.

Gonzalez was a very good fighter at his best. I never quite felt he was as special as some did though.
Even if you argue that Floyd lost the first fights with Maidana and Castillo, he adjusted and dominated in the rematches. Gonzales is good, but couldn't make the necessary adjustments in this fight and therefore lost. He can only fight one way...going forward. He is a good fighter, but a pound for pound fighter would be able to make adjustments and do better in rematches.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:15 AM #14
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Dude Floyd just went 10 rounds with a 0-0 amateur and lost 3 rounds in the process. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take Roman 10 rounds to stop an amateur.
yet you fail to mention that's his retirement fight

Even still that's somehow worse than getting put to sleep in 4....ok
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:16 AM #15
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Roman would fuk floyd up pfp.

This is just idiots being idiots. Fighters lose/get knocked out. Duran would still murder floyd and so would hearns, despite both having been sparked.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:21 AM #16
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He should have made The Thai fighter come down to 113 lol that's what Floyd would have done, right?
From 154 to 152 is not the same as 115 to 113.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:22 AM #17
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Even if you argue that Floyd lost the first fights with Maidana and Castillo, he adjusted and dominated in the rematches. Gonzales is good, but couldn't make the necessary adjustments in this fight and therefore lost. He can only fight one way...going forward. He is a good fighter, but a pound for pound fighter would be able to make adjustments and do better in rematches.
Indeed. As i said, i've never felt he was special and never put him on a level with Floyd, not even close. I said he would get KO'd tonight anyway. I'm not even that sure i'd be confident to pick against Floyd even if he come back at 40 to face the top WW's, such is his greatness in the ring.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:24 AM #18
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Well people get carried away and mostly it's them wanting to pull Floyd down anyway.

He isn't as great as Floyd, nowhere near but Chocolatito has still been a hell of a fighter in his time. I said he would get KO'd tonight anyway, he just ran into a guy that's too big/strong for him at a time when he's probably faded too. It is what it is, i saw that coming.

It still doesn't undo how good Gonzalez was in the past though.
Good post. I really hate that everyone always has to bring Floyd into the discussion.

Props to Gonzalez, was a heck of the fighter but his best days are clearly over. Happens to all boxers eventually.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:27 AM #19
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Indeed. As i said, i've never felt he was special and never put him on a level with Floyd, not even close. I said he would get KO'd tonight anyway. I'm not even that sure i'd be confident to pick against Floyd even if he come back at 40 to face the top WW's, such is his greatness in the ring.
How could you discount Floyd until you actually saw him lose and look old? I'm not a huge Mayweather fan but I don't care who it is from 154lbs and below you say he can win that fight.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:29 AM #20
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From 154 to 152 is not the same as 115 to 113.
Not sure wtf that means but sure... Making someone come down 2 lbs under where they fight when they barely make the original weight is bad at either weight. Zombie Thai guy is worse than healthy strong Thai guy, No? Or is somehow 2 lbs equal to 15 lbs in your mind?
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