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  • #11
    Originally posted by Pusnuts View Post
    Dude Stiverne was a flat out can for that fight.
    Overweight, inactive, old, been dropped a lot in sparring, Wilder beat it out of him the first time.
    Several guys would have done what Wilder did.
    Name thise guys. That wasn't just a KO...it was a demolition. Name the SEVERAL guys that would put Stiverne to sleep like Wilder.
    Last edited by Ake-Dawg; 11-07-2017, 12:45 PM.

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    • #12
      Wilder's brutal KO on Sky Sports put UK boxing fans on notice. No way can anyone say he's unknown outside the US now. No more excuses from Hearn.

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      • #13
        Wilder's KO of Stiverne was spectacular, no doubt. But, was that a signature win that should get people excited about Wilder's skill? No. Stiverne was a last minute stand-in, is nearly 40, fat as hell and had one fight in three years. He looked like a hopeless soul in there. Before that, he was a has been that never was. Wilder's already known to KO bums, he's been doing it his entire career. As I said, the KO was great, but I'm not saying, "Oh shit, Joshua better watch out!"
        Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 11-07-2017, 01:10 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by iamboxing View Post
          Wilder's brutal KO on Sky Sports put UK boxing fans on notice. No way can anyone say he's unknown outside the US now. No more excuses from Hearn.
          Wilder's barely even known in the U.S. much less the UK. Attendance numbers and TV ratings have significantly declined for Wilder since winning the title.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Gambino View Post
            Wilder's barely even known in the U.S. much less the UK. Attendance numbers and TV ratings have significantly declined for Wilder since winning the title.
            Dang, quit being a fanboy and start being a boxing fan. Boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. Fanboy b*tches like you want excuses if it means their hero could lose.

            Guess what? Takam was even less known! So was Brazeale! So was every one else AJ has ever fought besides Wlad.

            Your entire argument is that Wilder is better known than these other bums, but not well enough known to fight AJ. Only the bums who are even less known have any right to face AJ. This is exactly why Wilder should never have done Stiverne like that. Now AJ, Hearn, and AJ's lil fanboys are scared to death and are throwing more excuses out there everyday.

            It is sad you are that worried about your fav. fighter losing. You ma'am, are exactly what is wrong with boxing.

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            • #16
              Dr. Cool, EXACTLY!!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                Dang, quit being a fanboy and start being a boxing fan. Boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. Fanboy b*tches like you want excuses if it means their hero could lose.

                Guess what? Takam was even less known! So was Brazeale! So was every one else AJ has ever fought besides Wlad.

                Your entire argument is that Wilder is better known than these other bums, but not well enough known to fight AJ. Only the bums who are even less known have any right to face AJ. This is exactly why Wilder should never have done Stiverne like that. Now AJ, Hearn, and AJ's lil fanboys are scared to death and are throwing more excuses out there everyday.

                It is sad you are that worried about your fav. fighter losing. You ma'am, are exactly what is wrong with boxing.
                This isn't about being a fanboy, this is about economics. I want to see the best fights also, but that's not how boxing works. Eddie Hearn, Wilder, Joshua and Haymon have greater incentive in waiting. The difference between being a 3-belt fight vs. an undisputed championship UK vs. USA fight in Vegas with more established fighters is hundreds of thousands of PPV buys. There's no reason to leave millions of dollars on the table for the sake of pleasing the "real" fans when they will still be there anyways when this is a much bigger fight. Building up a fighter's popularly aginst Takam and Brazeale-level opposition is a necessary part of the process and it will be worth the delay, a least in the financial aspect, just like it was with Mayweather-Pacquiao.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by landotter View Post
                  Wilder is fine. Boxing fans understand that Ortiz and Povetkin should be on his resume which would help. Casual fans only see the "0" and the KO's. And his harshest critics can be silenced by the Joshua fight when it happens (I believe in about 12 months from now after 2 more AJ defenses and another fight for Wilder).

                  Joshua's resume is better, but honestly not THAT much so. The Klitschko fight is being touted as an all time great, but he was 40 years old and coming off 18 months or so of inactivity. Let's not forget that Klitschko's previous fight was an embarrassing loss to Tyson Fury who is a snake oil salesman of a heavyweight who wasn't even in good shape when he was fighting Klitschko. Both Breazele (Wilder's likely next opponent) and Whyte are legit wins but neither are world beaters. After those three, there are a ton of low rent names.

                  Wilder just needs to keep winning and being a fun interview. The Joshua fight will come, then he can prove he is the man. Or he can allow Joshua to prove otherwise. Either way, one fighter becomes the others Signature Win.
                  Great post. This article by Fitz failed to mention that. Wilder is really trying to face the best, but the division is extremely shallow and apparently full of cheaters.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                    Dang, quit being a fanboy and start being a boxing fan. Boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. Fanboy b*tches like you want excuses if it means their hero could lose.

                    Guess what? Takam was even less known! So was Brazeale! So was every one else AJ has ever fought besides Wlad.

                    Your entire argument is that Wilder is better known than these other bums, but not well enough known to fight AJ. Only the bums who are even less known have any right to face AJ. This is exactly why Wilder should never have done Stiverne like that. Now AJ, Hearn, and AJ's lil fanboys are scared to death and are throwing more excuses out there everyday.

                    It is sad you are that worried about your fav. fighter losing. You ma'am, are exactly what is wrong with boxing.
                    *Starts slow clap*

                    Close the thread. We are done here.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by landotter View Post
                      Wilder is fine. Boxing fans understand that Ortiz and Povetkin should be on his resume which would help. Casual fans only see the "0" and the KO's. And his harshest critics can be silenced by the Joshua fight when it happens (I believe in about 12 months from now after 2 more AJ defenses and another fight for Wilder).

                      Joshua's resume is better, but honestly not THAT much so. The Klitschko fight is being touted as an all time great, but he was 40 years old and coming off 18 months or so of inactivity. Let's not forget that Klitschko's previous fight was an embarrassing loss to Tyson Fury who is a snake oil salesman of a heavyweight who wasn't even in good shape when he was fighting Klitschko. Both Breazele (Wilder's likely next opponent) and Whyte are legit wins but neither are world beaters. After those three, there are a ton of low rent names.

                      Wilder just needs to keep winning and being a fun interview. The Joshua fight will come, then he can prove he is the man. Or he can allow Joshua to prove otherwise. Either way, one fighter becomes the others Signature Win.
                      Wilder's detractors cannot help themselves.
                      Nothing he does will ever silence them!!!

                      It is what it is.

                      Wilder just needs to handle his business ruthlessly and emphatically as he did this weekend.

                      In the end that is all that matters.

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