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Old 06-09-2019, 12:09 PM #41
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It’s a catch 22. If there isn’t enough being done by police in these violent communities, they are criticized for not caring. If they do their job in these communities and one or two get out of line, then all police are bad.
Is this guy even in a "violent community"?

Idk about a catch 22. I think you maybe go easy on a mfer clearly picking up trash outside where he lives & maybe go harder on the guy loitering in known drug areas & more sketchy sh^t like that. But maybe there is some new crime wave going on by mfers with trash gripper thingamajigs that I'm not aware of.

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There are approximately 850K cops in this country at the state, city and local level. There are a handful of incidents like this each day. While I don’t support cops using strong arm tactics and abusing their power, I also notice that the good they do is never randomly recorded. Only the bad. That’s just how it goes, bad news gets more press than good. But put things in their perspective. Close to a million cops in this country, if things were really as bad as some of these people would have you believe, there would be way more incidents like this. Especially now that everyone has a cell phone camera.
Plenty of the good things cop do gets noticed. But obviously the bad sh^t is gonna be out in the ether more cuz the bad sh^t ANYONE does is put into the ether more. Thats human sh^t not anti-police sh^t.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:12 PM #42
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I get so tired of playing these stupid semantics games with you. Here, I'll edit my fŁcking posts... Jesus...
Well you keep playing his stupid Gotcha! games, so obviously you aren't too tired of playing them.....
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At what point do you admit you'd have better luck convincing a brick wall that's it's wrong?
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:12 PM #43
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Plus the guy DID show his ID. Apparently it wasn't good enough!
Apparently, the ID had neither his address nor his DOB. I can't imagine it was a government issued identification
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:14 PM #44
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Apparently, the ID had neither his address nor his DOB. I can't imagine it was a government issued identification
It was his school ID. What if that was his only form of ID. He clearly stated, "How am I gonna show you an ID with my address on it?"

It was probably the only ID he has. I certainly had a University ID before I had a driver's license, and there was nothing illegal about that.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:16 PM #45
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I get so tired of playing these stupid semantics games with you. Here, I'll edit my fŁcking posts... Jesus...
I wasn't asking you to edit anything, nor was I claiming you were wrong about anything. It was YOU who decided to tell me I was wrong
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The only reason I wrote to you is because I was confused about why you were in favor of the civilian adjusting his legal behavior instead of the cop adjusting his illegal behavior?
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:17 PM #46
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Well you keep playing his stupid Gotcha! games, so obviously you aren't too tired of playing them.....
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At what point do you admit you'd have better luck convincing a brick wall that's it's wrong?
I'm getting really tired of it. I like to debate, I like to go back and forth 'arguing' about things. But when I have to explain that I mean show your ID, not just have it on you in your back pocket, that's just too much.

I can even live with the fact that he'll NEVER EVER admit that what he said (just know your rights and don't do anything illegal) is directly contradicted by the video in question, but the semantics and word twisting is getting to be too much
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:23 PM #48
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I'm getting really tired of it. I like to debate, I like to go back and forth 'arguing' about things. But when I have to explain that I mean show your ID, not just have it on you in your back pocket, that's just too much.
But he did show his ID. It was returned to him at the end of the video.

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I can even live with the fact that he'll NEVER EVER admit that what he said (just know your rights and don't do anything illegal) is directly contradicted by the video in question, but the semantics and word twisting is getting to be too much
Um....go look at the video again. Just know your rights and don't do anything illegal was not contradicted
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The video makes it clear who was in the wrong.

How can "know your rights and don't do anything illegal" be contradicted?
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So you should not know your rights and do something illegal???????

He handled it the right way and got a bad cop off the street. Props to him!
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Is this guy even in a "violent community"?

Idk about a catch 22. I think you maybe go easy on a mfer clearly picking up trash outside where he lives & maybe go harder on the guy loitering in known drug areas & more sketchy sh^t like that. But maybe there is some new crime wave going on by mfers with trash gripper thingamajigs that I'm not aware of.



Plenty of the good things cop do gets noticed. But obviously the bad sh^t is gonna be out in the ether more cuz the bad sh^t ANYONE does is put into the ether more. Thats human sh^t not anti-police sh^t.
Iím not referring to this incident as a violent community. Iím referring the cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta, etc. I know a lot guys on here get tired of hearing about Chicago murder rates any time a cop does wrong somewhere, but there is a sharp contrast in how much care and outrage is shown when black on black crime far exceeds incidents of police brutality. But these communities do not want a greater police presence and really donít give a shyt about how many die until itís a cop who does the killing, justified or not.
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I'm getting really tired of it. I like to debate, I like to go back and forth 'arguing' about things. But when I have to explain that I mean show your ID, not just have it on you in your back pocket, that's just too much.

I can even live with the fact that he'll NEVER EVER admit that what he said (just know your rights and don't do anything illegal) is directly contradicted by the video in question, but the semantics and word twisting is getting to be too much
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