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Old 05-28-2019, 06:04 PM #31
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In fairness EVERYONE should know that already.

ESPN, Showtime, Fox & DAZN & maybe the UFC soon isn't gonna be throwing money into boxing indefinitely. There's gonna be winnings & losers with all this money getting thrown out there.

Idk about the over/under being 3 years doe. I'd go for more like 5 or 6 years cuz I think DAZN will have a better idea of how this Canelo deal worked out for them or didn't by then & they will have won some other sports rights or not by then. And PBC's Fox deal will be over if they flip that into a bigger deal or not that will be pretty telling for their immediate future. Same with TR & ESPN. And if the UFC jumps in I tend to think they could be out much sooner if things don't steer there way & just give promoters deals on Fight Pass vs promoting their own shows.
Totally get what you're saying but Eddie don't have deals with those other Networks in the US, he has a Deal with DAZN so he is mostly talking about his situation with DAZN and how British Fans feel like Matchroom and his fighters are abandoning the British Fans

ESPN, FOX, CBS/Showtime...Those companies generate BILLIONS and they're already established. They're not trying to build up their Platforms off of Boxing. I know people are trying hard to push Showtime out the door but according to their Annual Reports, Showtime boxing is doing GREAT for them and it is Key to their Streaming Service
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:31 PM #32
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And if this doesn't work out he goes back to the UK like he's said numerous times. What happens to the young Americans?

Do you think the way he's ****ted on American boxing had helped?
American boxing has shot itself in the foot more times than not. Promoters rarely, if ever, work with each other. So not sure what the point of this post is, other than to point fingers at Hearn, like he's causing american boxing's downfall. smh.

PBC has a huge stable, but we get more showcase fights than substantial fights people want to see. Throw in the 4, possibly 5 ppvs theyre charging at 80 a pop and you say hearn is not invested? 8.33$ a month vs, lets say 3 ppvs and 15$ a month for showtime and you tell me who is invested...they guy who is charging 400$ for a year or the guy you hate so much, who is charging $99? c'mon son, wipe your eyes and let go of the hate...
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:35 PM #33
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Totally get what you're saying but Eddie don't have deals with those other Networks in the US, he has a Deal with DAZN so he is mostly talking about his situation with DAZN and how British Fans feel like Matchroom and his fighters are abandoning the British Fans

ESPN, FOX, CBS/Showtime...Those companies generate BILLIONS and they're already established. They're not trying to build up their Platforms off of Boxing. I know people are trying hard to push Showtime out the door but according to their Annual Reports, Showtime boxing is doing GREAT for them and it is Key to their Streaming Service
Obviously Eddie doesn't have deals with those other groups, but the whole big money thing isn't lasting forever with EVERYONE.

SOMEONE is gonna be a winner at some point. And then the money is gonna dry up for everyone else.

Personally I think Eddie bringing over so many UK guys is one of the reasons he's doing sh^tty in the US. No one in the US gives a f#ck about these UK guys, but Eddie is giving them piles of money to fight here in front of no one who gives a f#ck about watching them fight.

Fair play on this Joshua card which will probably have a majority of UK fans watching so it makes sense to have a UK friendly undercard, but he's putting UK cats on a bunch of US cards for no good reason except he probably needs filler.
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Old 05-28-2019, 07:10 PM #34
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Obviously Eddie doesn't have deals with those other groups, but the whole big money thing isn't lasting forever with EVERYONE.

SOMEONE is gonna be a winner at some point. And then the money is gonna dry up for everyone else.

Personally I think Eddie bringing over so many UK guys is one of the reasons he's doing sh^tty in the US. No one in the US gives a f#ck about these UK guys, but Eddie is giving them piles of money to fight here in front of no one who gives a f#ck about watching them fight.

Fair play on this Joshua card which will probably have a majority of UK fans watching so it makes sense to have a UK friendly undercard, but he's putting UK cats on a bunch of US cards for no good reason except he probably needs filler.
DAZN are the one spending the most money right now but Eddie Hearn will be fine regardless, if DAZN doesn't work he likely gets a Massive Deal with ESPN for AJ so I'm sure he is not worried at all
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Old 05-28-2019, 07:38 PM #35
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Oh don't get your panties in a bunch. You literally just proved my point even more. Just like Hearn has a plan B business, so do Haymon, ODLH and Arum.
They don't have a plan B in boxing so it's not just like Hearn. It's America or bust.

Why did you single out Haymon?
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Old 05-28-2019, 07:42 PM #36
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Is she fighting this weekend or something? If not, how was this relevant? That's like if a Crawford fight is coming up and someone say I rather watch Errol Spence… Well, okay? You can't watch both of them or something?
Because I'm talking about American boxing. The title clearly states AMERICAN boxing. So why is this British ***** being brought up in my topic about AMERICAN boxing should be the question

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Old 05-28-2019, 07:58 PM #37
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I've seen numerous videos of Hearn saying if this doesn't work out he has a good thing in the UK that he can always go back to. And as an American boxing fan this has always bothered me. Especially when you saw the way he came to America talking bad about everything with American boxing. Talking down on the sport doesn't build it up.

I know Arum, Haymon, Duva, Oscar and others are fully vested in American boxing. It's all or nothing for them. But it's obvious from his words, this is an experiment for Hearn. If it works, it works. If it doesn't he has something to fall back on. And he's made a lot of money in America with his DAZN deal. The only thing he really needs from American boxing is the AJ-Wilder fight.
And what's wrong with this?

Eddie knows how difficult it is with all the Americans sticking with haymon even though he's got more money for them. Cowardice and delusion is a major part of the difficulties he faces. That and racism. They think the "White Devil" will bleed them dry when nothing in the way of evidence has shown this. Actually, quite the opposite. Haymon's fighters are getting much less than what they would over at DAZN. But you know what it's like with discrimination at your end.

He's just speaking on all the possibilities that can come about. If it doesn't work out over there, he's always got British boxing to keep him busy. It in no way suggests that he isn't committed to boxing in the US. Although your smears will wish to paint that picture due to your obsession and the hope for his failure.
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Because I'm talking about American boxing. The title clearly states AMERICAN boxing. So why is this British ***** being brought up in my topic about AMERICAN boxing should be the question
American boxing doesn't mean just American fighters. That was still a foul response to BoxingIsGreat saying he is looking forward to watching Katie Taylor fight. You can prefer to watch Shields all you want, but that doesn't mean you can't catch Taylor either.
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American boxing doesn't mean just American fighters. That was still a foul response to BoxingIsGreat saying he is looking forward to watching Katie Taylor fight. You can prefer to watch Shields all you want, but that doesn't mean you can't catch her either.
Ok well since you can't understand what the point of my thread is (even though it's obvious to others who posted in here) this is about American boxing and American fighters only. You wanna talk about the British ***** y'all can take that **** elsewhere
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No more obsessed than the 5-8 people who make 10 Wilder threads a day. The same threads you always comment in
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What is it about those threads on Wilder that you disagree on?

You don't like truth or something? Wilder talks so freely that threads will be created on his latest delusion and lies. This is a boxing forum so we talk about the hot topics.
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