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View Poll Results: Who's the bestest mexican fighter atm? (april 2019)
Canelo 23 44.23%
Juan Francisco "el gallo" Estrada 28 53.85%
Other (who???) 1 1.92%
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:33 PM #21
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If the third fight happens, i want to make a bet with you, permanent ban.


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Man, I would kick your ass in 3 minutes. Trust me.
Canelo-Jacobs is next week.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:34 PM #22
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I’m a big canelo fan but what I saw last night from Gallo vs a top 10 p4p was amazing. I don’t recall canelo being that clearly dominant vs a top 10 p4p so I’d say Gallo is superior.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:35 PM #23
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:36 PM #24
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I’m a big canelo fan but what I saw last night from Gallo vs a top 10 p4p was amazing. I don’t recall canelo being that clearly dominant vs a top 10 p4p so I’d say Gallo is superior.
It's hard.

Both are very good fighters with a lot of talent.

I like more the style of Estrada, his footwork it's pretty beauty
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:42 PM #25
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Similar loss. Similar best win. Similar general body of work
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I’m a big canelo fan but what I saw last night from Gallo vs a top 10 p4p was amazing. I don’t recall canelo being that clearly dominant vs a top 10 p4p so I’d say Gallo is superior.
Miguel Cotto. Cotto was top 10 P4P when Canelo fought him. Cotto is better then SSR and Canelo was as dominate or more against Cotto. GGG, Cotto, Mosley, Lara, Trout are better then Estrada's wins. And you just can't pretend or make Estrada's loses go away. Estrada win last night should get him finally in the bottom half of top 10 P4P. But canelo has better wins.

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Old 04-27-2019, 08:53 PM #27
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Similar loss. Similar best win. Similar general body of work
Similar loss?

Gallo went down 4 pounds and was pretty competitive against Román González.

And then Román ducked the rematch
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:59 PM #28
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Miguel Cotto. Cotto was top 10 P4P when Canelo fought him. Cotto is better then SSR and Canelo was as dominate or more against Cotto. GGG, Cotto, Mosley, Lara, Trout are better then Estrada's wins. And you just can't pretend or make Estrada's loses go away. Estrada win last night should get him finally in the bottom half of top 10 P4P. But canelo has better wins.
Man, Viloria was better fighter than Trout, old Mosley, and probably better than the old Cotto.

He was a former Olympian, a good boxer puncher with very good power, he schooled Nonito in amateur.

Mosley was too old, man.

Sor Rungvisai is wild but I don't think GGG is way superior than him.

I mean, GGG struggled against Canelo and Jacobs and Sor destroyed Román González that was better than Jacobs. And almost K.O Cuadras in a close fight that last 6 rounds due a headbutt .

Sor won the first fight against Estrada in a close fight but better Performance than GGG against Jacobs or Nelo I.

It's hard.

Look the skills of Juan, he is an artist.

As a fighter, he has way better footwork and curiously they have the same age.

Both born in 1990.

And both won the Golden medal in the national amateur tournament.

Estrada turned pro at 18 years.

Canelo at 15 years old.

Actually it's a hard debate to most of hardcore mexican fans like me.
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Man, Viloria was better fighter than Trout, old Mosley, and probably better than the old Cotto.

He was a former Olympian, a good boxer puncher with very good power, he schooled Nonito in amateur.

Mosley was too old, man.

Sor Rungvisai is wild but I don't think GGG is way superior than him.

I mean, GGG struggled against Canelo and Jacobs and Sor destroyed Román González that was better than Jacobs. And almost K.O Cuadras in a close fight that last 6 rounds due a headbutt .

Sor won the first fight against Estrada in a close fight but better Performance than GGG against Jacobs or Nelo I.

It's hard.

Look the skills of Juan, he is an artist.

As a fighter, he has way better footwork and curiously they have the same age.

Both born in 1990.

And both won the Golden medal in the national amateur tournament.

Estrada turned pro at 18 years.

Canelo at 15 years old.

Actually it's a hard debate to most of hardcore mexican fans like me.
No he wasn't stop it. Cotto is better all-time and better and ranked higher at the time canelo fought him then Vilario. Even trout you can make the case who was undefeated at the time. I'll give you an older Mosley but that's it all the other guys I listed are better then Viloria . SSR is not better then GGG and I kill GGG but he is better. He caught lightning in a bottle and got chocalatito at the right time where he was fading struggling with the higher weights. And the SSR we saw last night isn't the same SSR that beat Estrada the first time. GGG and Cotto are both better then SSR.

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I got a funnier one for you!

The years Tom Loeffler paraded his expenses and insulted the gullible Los Angeles Mexican Americans that GGG was Mexican style like a Doritos commercial. Simple consumerism ain’t it?

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Meh, he wasn't the first non mexican fighter trying to win the mexican crowd and he won't be the last
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If Estrada was the same size as Canelo he would whoop Canelo's ass.
Based on what? Estrada hasn't beaten someone as skillful as ginger. Gallo's biggest advantage would be his footwork, and Canelo has faced and beaten people with even better footwork before *points at the pic above*

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Rung is better than anyone on Canelo's resume, including GGG.
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It’s super close. Estrada beat (I don’t care what the official record says) Gonzalez who everyone (mainstream media) considered P4P #1, and Canelo beat Golovkin who everyone considered P4P #1.

Both took out the top dogs yet don’t get any consideration for P4P #1.

I guess you have to beat Linares who has been knocked out by a bunch of Mexican cab drivers in a round or two to become P4P #1, lmao.
Loma schooled Rigo and made him quit like a *****, same Rigo everybody considered the second coming of boxing Jesus. he also beat Gary Rusell, who was considered the next black hope for muricans. both in dominant fashion.

Canelo barely won a decission over GGG and many ppl still believes he got a gift. had he beaten GGG in dominant fashion, I'd have to consider him P4P#1, but right now I have to place him behind King Loma


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Estrada has better footwork so far, better stamina, and is skillful too.

It's a very complicate decision but I go with Juan.

Juan had a lot of problems with injuries but he is one the best of this generation
Canelo has better power, better combinations, best body punching in the game, better defense, and he's also one of the best counter punchers. I'd say Canelo is overall more skilled, it's just his cement feet that tend to be a problem, but he's improving in that sense, and also stamina wise, as the 2nd GGG match proved

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Estrada for me, canelo is a punk ass dirty PED cheater and has that Puto delahoya paying off the judges.
ginger was victim of contaminated meat. how else do you explain Canelo having MORE stamina in the GGG rematch than in the first fight, where he was supposedly on PEDs?
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