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Old 10-17-2017, 02:05 PM #11
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Lmao you must haven’t seen any of op post before.
Many of them are trolling. Although idk if he’s joking or serious about this one. You notice he called the guy Steve Kim brother lmao. You think Ortiz should’ve been cleared?
I don't know enough about it to make a call one way or the other. Maybe it was just an oversight but he didn't notify the testers about the medication he was on and he can't blame anybody for that but himself and his own team.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:56 PM #12
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actually, the connection between the two, Meldonium being similar to that of Insulin which is also a banned substance, is to have people critically think if these drugs are indeed PEDS, that's what up to debate, and that's what the doctor insinuates.

the common similarity usage between Meldonium, Atenolol, and Losartan is to treat the cardiovascular system, so treatments benefit of course those with high blood, hypertensive non-diabetic...

point is by helping out the cardivascular system for those that really need it, and keep in mind Cubans have a high risk of type 2 diabetes in their genetic or I guess high fatty foods with seafood...

the question is...is Luis Ortiz using such drugs for performance enhancing like the old school Eastern Euro block?

you see, I don't the rules of boxing commission and their approvals for types of diabetic boxers, but I imagine nowadays its not allowed a license? I dont know... for example athletes with different types of diabetes arent allowed insulin?

It's a very complicated issue because Ortiz may in fact need these general prescriptions. Dude looks old and as said, Cubans play the part with high blood pressure in their culture..
Meldonium is not used to treat high blood pressure

One of the side effects of Meldonium is that it can cause high blood pressure.

Linking Meldonium and insulin the way you do here is like linking chemicals and radiation because they can both be used to treat cancer. It makes no rational sense.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:59 PM #13
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Meldonium is not used to treat high blood pressure

One of the side effects of Meldonium is that it can cause high blood pressure.

Linking Meldonium and insulin the way you do here is like linking chemicals and radiation because they can both be used to treat cancer. It makes no rational sense.
I'm not linking Meldonium to Insulin, no, we leave WADA's prohibited list to detail Meldonium as a metabolic modulator and hence circulation.

as I said, Meldonium, Atenolol, and Losartan are used to treat cardiovascular issues fundamentally. if you're curious as to why WADA has banned it to theorize that it can be used to yield performance enchancement then that's the debate towards the prohibited list.

Meldonium is predominantly used to treat heart conditions but has a range of pharmaceutical uses..

take your time to figure out the heart, cardiovascular system, blood pressure, hypertension, non-diabetic, types of diabetes.
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