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The problem with not fighting the 2nd best fighter of your era:Klitschkos and others.

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jel View Post
    Wlad was never the lineal champ.

    You become the lineal champ by beating the man who beat the man.

    Klittards and Fat Dan will like you to falsely believe it was restored. But it never was.

    1956-1959 - Floyd Paterson
    1959-1960 - Ingemar Johansson
    1960-1962 - Floyd Paterson
    1962-1964 - Sonny Liston
    1964-1971 - Muhammad Ali
    1971-1973 - Joe Frazier
    1973-1974 - George Foreman
    1974-1978 - Muhammad Ali
    1978-1978 - Leon Spinks
    1978-1978 - Muhammad Ali



    1978-1985 - Larry Holmes
    1985-1988 - Michael Spinks
    1988-1990 - Mike Tyson
    1990-1990 - Buster Douglas
    1990-1992 - Evander Holyfield
    1992-1993 - Riddick Bowe
    1993-1994 - Evander Holyfield
    1994-1994 - Michael Moorer
    1994-1997 - George Foreman
    1997-1998 - Shannon Briggs
    1998-2001 - Lennox Lewis
    2001-2001 - Hasim Rahman
    2001-2003 - Lennox Lewis




    Vitali retired and supposedly broke the linage.
    But that would only work if he stayed retired or if he came back shot and irrelevant.

    Vitali came back and was clearly the 'other top heavyweight' of his era.
    This messes up the Linage because you actually no longer know who was the man of his era.

    Not to mention, Vitali beat the #2 Sanders. Wladimir lost to Sanders. Wladimir never beat Sanders. Which messes up the linage in itself as well with no direct correlations.


    Linage is very important. Because boxing historians will look back and say 'Wladimir was never the Lineal champ, he was never the true 'man' of the division'.
    Beautiful.....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jel View Post
      If Vitali was not related to Wladimir, they would have fought 2-3 times already. Vitali would have at least been a 50-50 if not outright favorite against Wladimir. This really does distorts his title defense numbers and his reign of dominance. He shared his reign with a fighter who is his equal or nearly so. He shared his dominance with a fighter who have a very real chance of beating him and ending his title defense streak. This is troubling because there are a number of ATG'S who would have had better reigns, better records and better defenses than they had, if they never fought the clear #1 challenger to their throne.
      Wow, that is a good point. I never thought about it like that and that goes for both brothers.

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