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  • #11
    Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
    They can call it what they want. For thousands have sat in Alis state, except then it's called Dementia Pugilistica.
    ^^^^^
    This

    It's ******ed to assume that a person who's profession was getting punched in the face and who daily took heavy amounts of brain trauma and then started to suffer a neurological disease that is wasn't related to his job. Was it the sole cause I don't know did it contribute most f.ucking likely

    Unless your a DR or some other specialist in that field that you haven't disclosed your opinion on the matter is really worthless

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    • #12
      The guy ali fought against in his comeback, Jerry quarry who was an excellent fighter also had brain issues after boxing, hell, the guy didn't make it out of his 50s ffs. They call it pugilistic demintia, parkinsons syndrome or whatever, sugar ray Robinson, joe louis all had it. Besides the tough fights ali had he was always taking a beating in sparring matches. Idk where you're getting at tc, if he never boxed it's 100% sure he wouldn't of ended up in that state he was in, what you gonna claim next? That boxers don't die in the ring or that a punch can't kill you?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
        ^^^^^
        This

        It's ******ed to assume that a person who's profession was getting punched in the face and who daily took heavy amounts of brain trauma and then started to suffer a neurological disease that is wasn't related to his job. Was it the sole cause I don't know did it contribute most f.ucking likely

        Unless your a DR or some other specialist in that field that you haven't disclosed your opinion on the matter is really worthless
        Yeah, he was only fighting the largest men in the sport..........

        Originally posted by sleazyfellow View Post
        The guy ali fought against in his comeback, Jerry quarry who was an excellent fighter also had brain issues after boxing, hell, the guy didn't make it out of his 50s ffs. They call it pugilistic demintia, parkinsons syndrome or whatever, sugar ray Robinson, joe louis all had it. Besides the tough fights ali had he was always taking a beating in sparring matches. Idk where you're getting at tc, if he never boxed it's 100% sure he wouldn't of ended up in that state he was in, what you gonna claim next? That boxers don't die in the ring or that a punch can't kill you?
        This boy is sa-leazzzy. One Sleazy Fellow indeed.

        you really have no clue how many sat in similar trances as Ali. the fighters that made next to nothing through all of the years, they are certainly out there.........
        Last edited by Rockin'; 06-06-2016, 10:28 PM.

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        • #14
          Thanks rockin, nice to see you again. Haven't been here in ages, miss the mid 00s when I was here all the time in the e-arguements and acting a fool...this ali news brought me back and reading this stuff on parkinsons, it'll never be known how some get it and others like chuvalo or tyson don't, I think it's just the luck of your genes and other factors.

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          • #15
            Yall have no idea what i was saying. I said boxing doesnt lead to Parkinson disease. I didnt say it doesnt damage you. Ofcourse it damages you, slurring your speech and causes brain damage. But Ali would of got Parkinsons regardless. Boxing just made it worse for him in the long run. But saying boxing causes parkinsons disease is factually wrong. It just made it worse.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by muslimer12 View Post
              Yall have no idea what i was saying. I said boxing doesnt lead to Parkinson disease. I didnt say it doesnt damage you. Ofcourse it damages you, slurring your speech and causes brain damage. But Ali would of got Parkinsons regardless. Boxing just made it worse for him in the long run. But saying boxing causes parkinsons disease is factually wrong. It just made it worse.
              What ali had was not what micheal j fox has, it's not Parkinson's as you would call what fox has, but the symptoms are similar. I know what you're saying, but others already explained the other names alis condition was called. No he would not of developed his parkinsons syndrome without the repeated blows to the head

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              • #17
                The causes of Parkinson's are still not fully understood. But they're a combination of genetic and environmental causes. Ali had some kind of genetic predisposition to Parkinson's. Ultimately, all of us do -- if we live long enough into old age. Getting hammered in the brain DEFINITELY increases your chances of bringing on the disease, and bringing it earlier.
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                • #18
                  Not a cause but a major risk factor. Yes it is idiopathic but heavy head trauma over 20 years doesn't do your brain any favours.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by muslimer12 View Post
                    How many fighters do you know that have parkinsons? Ali and Roach. Out of the millions who have boxed, people only know of 2.
                    Wildly ignorant statement. There are so many people with it that they have a name for the condition, "Pugilistic Parkinsons". You think they made that up for the 2 boxers you are aware of? Do some reading.
                    I'm not referencing Ali at all, but commenting on the foolishness of the above.

                    "Medical professionals have called for such a ban since as early as the 1950s. Symptoms and signs of DP develop progressively over a long latent period sometimes amounting to decades, with the average time of onset being about 12 to 16 years after the start of a career in boxing. The condition is thought to affect around 15% to 20% of professional boxers."

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                      Wildly ignorant statement. There are so many people with it that they have a name for the condition, "Pugilistic Parkinsons". You think they made that up for the 2 boxers you are aware of? Do some reading.
                      I'm not referencing Ali at all, but commenting on the foolishness of the above.

                      "Medical professionals have called for such a ban since as early as the 1950s. Symptoms and signs of DP develop progressively over a long latent period sometimes amounting to decades, with the average time of onset being about 12 to 16 years after the start of a career in boxing. The condition is thought to affect around 15% to 20% of professional boxers."
                      I think they are different conditions. What boxers typically get, Pugilistic Parkinsons as you call it, is different from Parkinsons that Michael J Fox and Ali have. Not saying boxing didn't make matters worse for Ali I'm sure it did, but I believe these are two separate things and even Ali's doctors have said they don't believe boxing caused his Parkinson's. " I Don’t Think Boxing Contributed To Ali Contracting Parkinson’s Disease"
                      http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/...li-parkinsons/

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