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Old 03-27-2020, 03:46 PM #51
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To get in the ring and take huge punches alone takes a lot of heart. We all see all the huge muscled-up guys who think boxing in this era is easy get knocked outs and beat up fat cabbies and retire.

So why do people tend to shyt on this era like the boxers from the other eras were special? People talk about Ruddock like heís some killer when heís not different from a guy like Dillian Whyte. Iíd pick Ruiz to beat Tua easily - both have a lot in common but Ruiz will overwhelm him with his extreme hand speed like Byrd did (Byrdís hands werenít even as fast as Ruizís). Iíve seen more from Dubois who I think is still is green than I saw in Bruno and Bruno was a WBC champion in the 90s. Golota was very similar to Helenius but he was considered a serious contender in the 90s and Helenius is more or less a journeyman in this era.

You lot need to stop hyping the 90s. And the 80s was trash - boxers on the Wlad and Vitali era of the 00s were better than 80s.
The 80ís HWís werenít trash.

Mike Tyson
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Why do you have to exaggerate?
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:49 PM #52
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Todayís fighters are better , more Olympic and national champions they are also size able which makes it harder for lighter guys if you look at most matches the heavier guy wins most of the time. I made an actual thread on that about the Fury rematch and was laughed at .

The 90Ēs had great fighters, Mercer, Morrison , Bowe , Tyson , Holyfield , Foreman etc but they arenít leaps and bounds what we have now ,Iíd favor todayís guys over them more then not . The Klitschko brothers were also around .
Todayís fighters arenít better as a whole.
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:05 PM #53
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Prime Lewis and Prime Ibeabuchi would wipe the floor with everyone in the current top 10..
The bum Ibeabuchi that became a lunatic? LMAO. That bum had zero defence and he wouldíve been killed against the top guys. Iíd even pick Helenius to do like he did that Polish bum Kowanacki since they both have zero defence. LMAOOO
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:42 PM #54
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You are talking trash again , Tua didnít have Ruiz skills even Holyfield who has shared the ring with both said Ruiz would be a handful for him . Tua was a very predictable fighter with reliant on a left while Ruiz is the more capable boxer the main thing they share is being to heavy for their respective heights .
I agree.

You're confused, it is my argument they are very different, not BangEMs.

I didn't say Tua is better at everything. I said he's got faster feet than Ruiz. I since then claimed he's got faster hands and Ruiz has better timing. I really don't see how what you've said doesn't endorse what I'm saying. You're talking **** too?
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:11 PM #55
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Lewis-Tua wasnít in the 90s.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:22 PM #56
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people hated lewis when he was boxing, said he was boring but the min he retires he becomes the generation goat. morale of the story, people are fickle.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:05 PM #57
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The bum Ibeabuchi that became a lunatic? LMAO. That bum had zero defence and he wouldíve been killed against the top guys. Iíd even pick Helenius to do like he did that Polish bum Kowanacki since they both have zero defence. LMAOOO
I see that Roger Mayweather is in full effect here..
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:49 PM #58
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Thread is nonsense...First on the Lennox v Tua, Aj v Ruiz 2 comparison, it’s ridiculous...Lennox landed 300 punches on Tua, basically 200 more punches then Tua landed. Aj landed a mere 107 punches, Lennox almost landed as many punches as Aj Threw! Aj obviously fought scared, Lennox fought tall there is a difference..,Lewis also almost threw 700 punches...it was also very one sided no way did Tua win 4 rounds, that’s nonsense he won 1 or 2 at most, the scores that night reflected that....


In conclusion anyone claiming these fights prove Aj is a better then Lennox is either a troll or understands nothing about boxing
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Old 03-27-2020, 11:30 PM #59
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Thread is nonsense...First on the Lennox v Tua, Aj v Ruiz 2 comparison, itís ridiculous...Lennox landed 300 punches on Tua, basically 200 more punches then Tua landed. Aj landed a mere 107 punches, Lennox almost landed as many punches as Aj Threw! Aj obviously fought scared, Lennox fought tall there is a difference..,Lewis also almost threw 700 punches...it was also very one sided no way did Tua win 4 rounds, thatís nonsense he won 1 or 2 at most, the scores that night reflected that....


In conclusion anyone claiming these fights prove Aj is a better then Lennox is either a troll or understands nothing about boxing
Aj imo deserves more credit. The guy is fighting all the tough heavies. Definitely the most proven champ today. He just needs to get through wilder fury and usyk to lay claim to this era
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:53 PM #60
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Lewis-Tua wasnít in the 90s.
Correct.

Embarrassing for the TS.
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