Who is greatest boxer of all time stat wise?

[Blue54]

I have Ali and Robinson the greatest prime for prime p4p.

But im talking stats
W, L, Championships, Title defences, Ko's, Weight Classes fought in, Olympic medals all of that.

[Santa_]

Pacquiao the one and only 8 division champ.

Numbers don't lie.

[Larry the boss]

Impossible to really compare man, different eras, different amount of titles, more divisions to win title in...

[warrenchico]

Manny Pacquiao, no debate in terms of achivements.

8 Division Champion

Named 2000's Fighter of the Decade

3-Time 'Fighter of the Year' by Ring Magazine and BWAA

Front cover of Time Magazine's 'Most Influential People' List in 2009

Active boxer while being a congressman, then later a senator

Only boxer in history to win 12 major world titles

Only boxer to win 5 Lineal Championships (flyweight, featherweight, super featherweight, light welterweight, and welterweight.)

Pacquiao is also the first boxer in history to win a major world title in Four (4) of the original Eight (8) weight divisions of boxing, also known as the "Glamour Divisions": flyweight, featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight.

[Santa_]

Manny Pacquiao, no debate in terms of achivements.

8 Division Champion

Named 2000's Fighter of the Decade

3-Time 'Fighter of the Year' by Ring Magazine and BWAA

Front cover of Time Magazine's 'Most Influential People' List in 2009

Active boxer while being a congressman, then later a senator

Only boxer in history to win 12 major world titles

Only boxer to win 5 Lineal Championships (flyweight, featherweight, super featherweight, light welterweight, and welterweight.)

Pacquiao is also the first boxer in history to win a major world title in Four (4) of the original Eight (8) weight divisions of boxing, also known as the "Glamour Divisions": flyweight, featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight.

[Rock&Roll]

One example - f-ck stats

What stats don't tell you is at the end of the 14th round in the Ali vs Frazier Thrilla In Manilla fight, Ali wanted to quit but Dundee wouldn't let him. Frazier wanted to continue, but Futch wouldn't let him.

If Frazier and Ali fought that 15th round and had Ali lost (Frazier dominated the middle rounds) then everyone would have a completely different view on 'The Greatest'.

Also, stats don't tell the bullying Ali put Frazier through, making him out to be a white mans champion, even though he grew up poor, with racial discrimination.

In conclusion:
F-ck your facts and figures and bullsh't stats. The real heads know whats up.

[Larry the boss]

What stats don't tell you is at the end of the 14th round in the Ali vs Frazier Thrilla In Manilla fight, Ali wanted to quit but Dundee wouldn't let him. Frazier wanted to continue, but Futch wouldn't let him.

If Frazier and Ali fought that 15th round and had Ali lost (Frazier dominated the middle rounds) then everyone would have a completely different view on 'The Greatest'.

Also, stats don't tell the bullying Ali put Frazier through, making him out to be a white mans champion, even though he grew up poor, with racial discrimination.

In conclusion:
F-ck your facts and figures and bullsh't stats. The real heads know whats up.

I am really missing the point as Frazier isnt even close to being in the discussion

[NChristo-]

I am really missing the point as Frazier isnt even close to being in the discussion

And what he said doesn't really mean anything because it was all "if" this and that happened, what happened outside of the ring means nothing when we're talking about just the sport.

What stats do tell us is that the fight didn't get to the 15th and Ali has the win.

"**** your facts and stats"

Ye **** what really happened because you're not a fan of Ali, don't understand people who have this tunnel vision and are incapable of seeing anything other than what they think is right.

[dibzvincent143]

If you go by fight stats, punch differentials and perfomance every single fight floyd is TBE.
His grade every fight is like 90. And that’s his career average.
While the sugar ray leonard, durans or pacquiaos of the world could go 99 in one fight or some, but they have fights were they’re like 83, 85, 79 well and losses.

TBE is different from GOAT though.

Though i don’t like Floyd at most parts of his career he is TBE in terms of consistency. He never had meh fights or fights were he looked trash.

The only thing and the biggest as well, that doesn’t make Floyd a solid GOAT candidate is that he doesn’t have a win over a prime atg fighter.

While Leonard have wins over prime duran, hagler, hearns and benetiz
It’s not really close

[UNBIASED BOXING]

If you go by fight stats, punch differentials and perfomance every single fight floyd is TBE.
His grade every fight is like 90. And that’s his career average.
While the sugar ray leonard, durans or pacquiaos of the world could go 99 in one fight or some, they have fights were they’re like 83, 85, 79 well and losses.

TBE is different from GOAT though.

Though i don’t like Floyd at most parts of his career he is TBE in terms of consistency. He never had meh fights or fights were he looked trash.

The only thing and the biggest as well, that doesn’t make Floyd a solid GOAT candidate is that he doesn’t have a win over a prime atg fighter.

While Leonard have wins over prime duran, hagler, hearns and benetiz
It’s not really close

I rate Leonard as one of the best boxers in the history of the sport.

Wins over Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, and Benitez. Three of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport and real ATGs. He went up as a fully matured man from welterweight, to fight and beat an all-time great two weight classes above at middleweight. That alone is ****ing phenomenal. How many fighters have ever moved up 2 weight classes at the age of 31 to fight and BEAT an all-time great? Not just an all-time great, but literally, a guy recognized as a top 3-5 middleweight of all-time in the history of this sport. That's impressive as hell to me, because he wasn't some 21 year old kid moving up in weight (which is typically normal for men).

He gave Hearns and Benitez their first losses.

Champion in multiple weight classes (welterweight, light middleweight, middleweight, and heavyweight). Lineal in three (although I guess light middleweight wasn't a big deal).

145-5 amateur career including an Olympic Gold medal with a great win over Andres Aldama (who would proceed to win Gold at the next Olympics).