I used to call Wilder "Bum Squad" and "Windmill"

[original zero]

Wilder doesnt "want to unify"

Wilder wants a cash out.

If you cant see how this is true you are an idiot

hahahaha if anybody is an idiot here, i can assure you it's you . . .

wilder's team very aggressively pursued a july 15 unification on FOX with joseph parker. bob arum wouldn't let it happen. arum needed to maintain a slice of the heavyweight title to help secure the hedge fund money needed to make the ESPN deal happen.

[SplitSecond]

Wilder doesnt "want to unify"

Wilder wants a cash out.

If you cant see how this is true you are an idiot

This. Joshua isn't a difficult fight to make neither, he just has to wait past klitschko, hearn has shown the willingness to put his guys in with just about anyone should they want it and he wouldnt be offering whyte in england without planning a josh fight next. The issue here is wilder wants a handout, he is not willing to earn it. If he fights whyte and doesnt get joshua he can start complaining about wanting to fight the best but that they dont want him.

Fighting nobodies hanging around waiting for a payday isnt the way to go, you should work up the list and put yourself in position to make guys want to make fights with you.

[champion4ever]

Is there any particular reason he couldn't fight Ortiz? That would be a big step up from anybody he has defended his title against in the years he has been the WBC world heavyweight champ.

Wait, before we start discussing mandatories, isn't Bermane Stiverne supposed to be his #1 mandatory challenger? I'm pretty sure that the WBC would grant him a voluntary defense against another titleholder but against another contender outside of his #1 mandatory challenger is something that they won't allow. They will strip Deontay Wilder of his title if he so chose to bypass Bermane Stiverne.

[original zero]

Is there any particular reason he couldn't fight Ortiz?

Ortiz is Joshua's mandatory. Why in the world would Haymon want to guarantee that one of his top two heavyweights loses their 0 by facing each other when Haymon has a chance to take the 0 of Hearn's fighter and two world championships instead?

[yammy25]

Original zero is the biggest wilder **** boy cuck on here.

Wilder wont take 3x his highest ever purse to fight someone he considers a bum.

Its now known per hearns meeting with the WBC chairman sulaiman that aslong as stiverne is taken care of financially then the WBC will happily sanction.

In zeros eyes the WBC are the embodiment of all things holy and amazing in boxing because they have the green belt. Failing to realise that an abc body is only as prestigous in peoples eyes as their adoration for its champion...which right now in the eyes of many is a bum cherry picker.

In all scales of financials, economic viability and with the mandatories for other champs tieing them up because they operate under different rules, this fight is the biggest meal ticket wilder can get... but because hes a hick moron being led by morons he wont take it, and that with his belt makes him a king in zeros eyes

[Earl-Hickey]

Original zero is the biggest wilder **** boy cuck on here.

Wilder wont take 3x his highest ever purse to fight someone he considers a bum.

Its now known per hearns meeting with the WBC chairman sulaiman that aslong as stiverne is taken care of financially then the WBC will happily sanction.

In zeros eyes the WBC are the embodiment of all things holy and amazing in boxing because they have the green belt. Failing to realise that an abc body is only as prestigous in peoples eyes as their adoration for its champion...which right now in the eyes of many is a bum cherry picker.

In all scales of financials, economic viability and with the mandatories for other champs tieing them up because they operate under different rules, this fight is the biggest meal ticket wilder can get... but because hes a hick moron being led by morons he wont take it, and that with his belt makes him a king in zeros eyes

holy ****

someone with a brain on nsb

[denium]

Wilder is a bum with glass hands. He won't be around for much longer.


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[original zero]

Wilder wont take 3x his highest ever purse to fight someone he considers a bum.

#1 - We don't know what Wilder's highest purse has been because publicly released numbers are often very different from the real numbers for fights that didn't go to purse bid.

#2 - We do know Wilder stood to make at least 4.5 million and potentially over 5 million for facing Povetkin, which he then sued for and won.

#3 - We don't know the details of Hearn's offer and in boxing, the devil is always in the details. Only naive fanboys take at face value any numbers thrown around by promoters trying to negotiate through the media.

#4 - Wilder has to face his mandatory. The WBC has historically allowed fighters to make other arrangements (step aside fee), but Don King doesn't **** around and that step aside fee isn't going to be cheap.

Its now known per hearns meeting with the WBC chairman sulaiman that aslong as stiverne is taken care of financially then the WBC will happily sanction.

First of all, you don't know anything. Hearn is one of the best promoters in the world. Taking anything he says publicly at face value is naive at best and idiotic at worst. His job is to drum up interest in Whyte's US debut. This is grandstanding at its finest.

Nobody will ever know for sure what was discussed privately between Hearn & Sulaiman, but Hearn's public description doesn't exactly match the private description. Regardless, you don't need a meeting to know that the WBC allows step aside fees.