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Hamed vs Broner: Who took the bigger piece of the humble pie?
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That's a tough one.
Broner took a worse beating. Hamed was more completely outclassed. Broner has fought since and likely will in the future. Hamed retired after his schooling.
Hamed by a little imo.
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Originally posted by lefthook2daliva View PostThat's a tough one.
Broner took a worse beating. Hamed was more completely outclassed. Broner has fought since and likely will in the future. Hamed retired after his schooling.
Hamed by a little imo.
Also, Barrera was reluctant to fight with Naz, but merely threw more punches. That's more or less how he won the fight. It was a good fight.
On top of that, Naz had to boil himself down 10 pounds or so the night before. But that's his own problem.
Originally posted by baya View Postum, how so?
What really happened was that Naz had had hand injuries for a while. He'd also had weight problems. he also had made a furtune. Something like $50 million. After the barrera fight, HBO weren't extending the contract and his adidas deal fell through but most importantly, Naz just didn't really want it anymore.
It had nothing to do with the loss itself.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostCompletely outclassed? I love how history rewrites itself with this fight. It was a pretty competitive fight throughout and i believe two judges had it very close.
Also, Barrera was reluctant to fight with Naz, but merely threw more punches. That's more or less how he won the fight. It was a good fight.
On top of that, Naz had to boil himself down 10 pounds or so the night before. But that's his own problem.
If that was the case, then why did he fight another fight? It's a lazy depiction of what actually occurred.
What really happened was that Naz had had hand injuries for a while. He'd also had weight problems. he also had made a furtune. Something like $50 million. After the barrera fight, HBO weren't extending the contract and his adidas deal fell through but most importantly, Naz just didn't really want it anymore.
It had nothing to do with the loss itself.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostCompletely outclassed? I love how history rewrites itself with this fight. It was a pretty competitive fight throughout and i believe two judges had it very close.
Also, Barrera was reluctant to fight with Naz, but merely threw more punches. That's more or less how he won the fight. It was a good fight.
On top of that, Naz had to boil himself down 10 pounds or so the night before. But that's his own problem.
If that was the case, then why did he fight another fight? It's a lazy depiction of what actually occurred.
What really happened was that Naz had had hand injuries for a while. He'd also had weight problems. he also had made a furtune. Something like $50 million. After the barrera fight, HBO weren't extending the contract and his adidas deal fell through but most importantly, Naz just didn't really want it anymore.
It had nothing to do with the loss itself.
Barrera outboxed Hamed pretty much every minute of every round. He dictated the pace and style of the fight the whole way through. If that were not the case, he risked being KO'd. Then toward the end Barrera threw away a point (or risked it. can't remember if it was actually taken) to physically humiliate Naz by running him head first into the corner pad. Looked like something out of a scripted wrestling match.
By the end of the fight Naz was meek as they come. Even in the post fight interview, what little bravado he could muster sounded phony. Why? Because he had been dominated by a much better fighter.
As for hands, weight, "he was past prime", etc., that **** just sounds like excuses to me.
I remember the fight before Barrera as well and he KO'd the dude brutally in like 4 rounds. He looked like the same guy KO'd Kelly to me...
I will give you that he did fight once after. Now that I'm thinking about it, I do remember something about a non televised (at least over here) fight against a no-hoper or something and it didn't go like it was supposed to? Or? Anyway Naz faded away after that. Or?
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Originally posted by baya View PostWHAT?!? hamed took such an all-encompassing loss that he quit boxing in his prime.
I'd understand if Barrera had put some kind of frightful career ending beatdown on him but he really didn't. He carefully outboxed him to and 8-4ish decision. He studied Naz meticulously and fought to a strict gameplan. Whilst Naz thought he'd brawl like he did against Morales and eventually get taken out.
People give Barrera far too much credit for that fight and the aftermath. Naz was already half way out the door well before that fight.
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