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Does a Ruiz vs Joshua rematch have to be in the UK?
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View PostI never Joshua won't draw, because he will. However, I'm talking about his spot among the other top HWs and his negotiation power if he was to fight say Fury or Wilder. Having those belts is pretty important.
Thing is he's still the most popular fighter in the HW division by a decent margin I feel like. Idk that a L is changing that.
If he dips more than maybe that changes, but right now he's Tyson post-Buster. He's not lost a lot of fans & for some people Joshua losing might make them like him more.
The main thing that got hurt is his potential in the US I feel like. I'm trying to think of guys who had some potential superstar ability who came to the US & lost in their debut fight (like this or just clearly) & still become a big US draw or didn't damage their rep in the US & not coming up with any names. I mean if Manny lost that debut HBO fight vs that Ledwaba guy back in the day does he get a 2nd chance in the US or does he become the guy he became? Idk, but I'd probably bet against it. If GGG loses to Rosado does he become the star he became? Lil different I guess cuz Joshua gots star power in the UK that can't be taken away, but his next fight in the US needs to be a big fight & a big W or he's not gonna get that sexy US money.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostHe's lost leverage for sure, belts are bs these days but they still hold value.
Thing is he's still the most popular fighter in the HW division by a decent margin I feel like. Idk that a L is changing that.
If he dips more than maybe that changes, but right now he's Tyson post-Buster. He's not lost a lot of fans & for some people Joshua losing might make them like him more.
The main thing that got hurt is his potential in the US I feel like. I'm trying to think of guys who had some potential superstar ability who came to the US & lost in their debut fight (like this or just clearly) & still become a big US draw or didn't damage their rep in the US & not coming up with any names. I mean if Manny lost that debut HBO fight vs that Ledwaba guy back in the day does he get a 2nd chance in the US or does he become the guy he became? Idk, but I'd probably bet against it. If GGG loses to Rosado does he become the star he became? Lil different I guess cuz Joshua gots star power in the UK that can't be taken away, but his next fight in the US needs to be a big fight & a big W or he's not gonna get that sexy US money.
Like you said, big difference is that Joshua has more star power than GGG and Pacquiao did coming to the states. I think his star power will still be fine as long as he handles business in the rematch.
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