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Old 08-04-2015, 10:51 AM #1
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With a lot of discussion on another thread about GGG and his place in history within the middleweight division, I thought, why not list who we all think are the top 10 mws of the last 15 years. So here's mine, now this isn't the type of lists I've made in the past with breakdowns and explanations. It's quite basic for now.

1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Kelly Pavlik
4. Jermain Taylor
5. Felix Sturm
6. Gennady Golovkin
7. Arthur Abraham
8. Daniel Geale
9. Tito Trinidad
10. Oscar DLH

Pavlik and Taylor and Sturm and GGG are interchangeable imo.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:12 AM #2
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winky is at minimum better than sturm
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:23 AM #3
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This list shows how pathetic MW has been.

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6 fights @MW, with a record of 3-2-1. His only notable victory @MW is Tito, a guy who only had 5 bouts @MW.

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Old 08-04-2015, 11:30 AM #4
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This list shows how pathetic MW has been.
Sadly, I almost agree with this. I won't use the word pathetic because we have still had the smarts of Hopkins and the brilliance of Martinez pass through the division, as well as cameos from Tito, Oscar, Winky, Williams and a handful of others. Pavlik and Taylor weren't bad and Golovkin has the tools to be a very, very good fight but just lacks the opponents.

I wonder what a welterweight or lightweight or featherweight top 10 would look like? Would they be similarly top heavy and weak in depth?

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Noway, why does Winky become at minimum with Sturm who is a 3 time title holder over the course of a decade and almost beat an ATG in DLH?
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:37 AM #5
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Better fighter? Certainly.

Better middleweight? No and it is'nt even close. 95% of Winky's best work was done at 154.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:43 AM #6
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Good list but I would put William Joppy over Oscar.

Oscar lost to B-Hop and the Sturm fight was a robbery.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:44 AM #7
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He may have burned out quick, but I think Taylor was a better middleweight than Martinez at his best. Pavlik was at his best as well. The drunk, fading version of Pavlik put Sergio on his ass and won 4 rounds.
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This list shows how pathetic MW has been.
It's messed up. MW is one of the best historical divisions, but it gets worse by the decade. I hope Canelo sticks around a while, because MW needs his starpower.
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It's messed up. MW is one of the best historical divisions, but it gets worse by the decade. I hope Canelo sticks around a while, because MW needs his starpower.
The late 80's to mid 90's is arguably one of the strongest periods in middleweight history. Here is Ring's top ten in 1990 and it does'nt even include McClellan, RJJ, Bhop, or Toney.

Michael Nunn
Julian Jackson
Sumbu Kalambay
Mike McCallum
Steve Collins
Chris Eubank
Roberto Duran
Michael Watson
Nigel Benn
Reggie Johnson
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Better fighter? Certainly.

Better middleweight? No and it is'nt even close. 95% of Winky's best work was done at 154.
Winky still has the shutout W over Trinidad and the Draw with Taylor. That's better than anything Sturm has ever done @ 160...
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