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    I think it is or if not a definitive no. 1, then definitely one of the top 2 or 3 divisions in the sport right now. Alongside Cruiser and maybe 147.

    Crolla proved last night that he is definitely world class, then there's the ever entertaining Linares (hope there's a unification next), add to that Flanagan, Zlat, Bogere and up and comers like Verdajo, with Campbell still hanging around the fringes. There's so many 50-50 match ups that could be made and with the strong British presence, little may get in the way of providing unifications.

    Crolla could take Linares and Flanagan over the next 10 months or so.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
      What other division actually has the possibility of 3 or all 4 title unifications with guys who will give each other 50-50 fights? Cruiser has a possibility but 147 is torn apart by promoter issues.

      Heavyweight only has 3 tested world class names and a couple of other names, the lower half of the top 10 wouldn't even make it in most other divisions in this sport it's that bad. MW is basically GGG and everyone else.

      SMW is slowly starting to come to life but we still don't know how good DeGale can be and if Groves can come back and what Ramirez is all about.

      LW has a lot going for it now. It may not have the most popular or talented names but it has some of the most well adjusted and professional names who all give each other losses if the fights get made.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
        What other division actually has the possibility of 3 or all 4 title unifications with guys who will give each other 50-50 fights? Cruiser has a possibility but 147 is torn apart by promoter issues.

        Heavyweight only has 3 tested world class names and a couple of other names, the lower half of the top 10 wouldn't even make it in most other divisions in this sport it's that bad. MW is basically GGG and everyone else.

        SMW is slowly starting to come to life but we still don't know how good DeGale can be and if Groves can come back and what Ramirez is all about.

        LW has a lot going for it now. It may not have the most popular or talented names but it has some of the most well adjusted and professional names who all give each other losses if the fights get made.
        I'll give you the fact that it's a bit underrated. Crolla getting that stoppage did make things a bit more exciting for LW. HW isn't stacked with talented fighters but there are lots of good matchups to make there and it looks like they will actually take place. WW and FW have better potential both in terms of talent and quality of matchups.

        Don't forget about LHW. Beterbiev will be a factor soon, Alvarez has looked good too. Ward/Kovalev is gonna be dope, the winner taking Stevenson would be dope if they can make it.
        Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 05-08-2016, 05:11 AM.

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        • #5
          Came into this thread thinking it had something to do with the trash British paper titlists and I was right.
          You notice the heavy british presence in the weakest weightclasses like bantam, previously super bantam and lightweight?
          They will literally only crowd certified wastelands.

          Linares, who has gotten koed by any half-decent mexican hes fought.
          Bogere, a Ray Beltran leftover(before you say he won, that was a robbery).
          Verdejo is a hypejob that looked so bad in his last fight Top Rank cancelled the already planned fight against Jose Felix jr.
          I like Zlaticanin, but his best win is Ricky Burns, you know, the same one the aforementioned Ray Beltran raped.

          Lightweight has never been more dead. All the decent fighter have moved up.
          Its like Featherweight when Salido and Mikey left it it somehow "got stacked".
          It got better by worse fighters and leftovers like Lomachenko and his leftovers in Russell picking up titles.:eyeroll:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by glenn mcrory View Post
            Came into this thread thinking it had something to do with the trash British paper titlists and I was right.
            You notice the heavy british presence in the weakest weightclasses like bantam, previously super bantam and lightweight?
            They will literally only crowd certified wastelands.

            Linares, who has gotten koed by any half-decent mexican hes fought.
            Bogere, a Ray Beltran leftover(before you say he won, that was a robbery).
            Verdejo is a hypejob that looked so bad in his last fight Top Rank cancelled the already planned fight against Jose Felix jr.
            I like Zlaticanin, but his best win is Ricky Burns, you know, the same one the aforementioned Ray Beltran raped.

            Lightweight has never been more dead. All the decent fighter have moved up.
            Its like Featherweight when Salido and Mikey left it it somehow "got stacked".
            It got better by worse fighters and leftovers like Lomachenko and his leftovers in Russell picking up titles.:eyeroll:
            what has this got to do with some fighters being British? They have the leading fighters at lw, sbw, hw, smw...so is every division where there is a list of british fighters just ****? is that what you're trying to say?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
              I'll give you the fact that it's a bit underrated. Crolla getting that stoppage did make things a bit more exciting for LW. HW isn't stacked with talented fighters but there are lots of good matchups to make there and it looks like they will actually take place. WW and FW have better potential both in terms of talent and quality of matchups.

              Don't forget about LHW. Beterbiev will be a factor soon, Alvarez has looked good too. Ward/Kovalev is gonna be dope, the winner taking Stevenson would be dope if they can make it.
              No one outside of Stevenson and KOvalev are proven factors in the division. Pascal is on the way out, Fonfara is ok. Beterbiev is an enigma until he actually does something against a live opponent (I know the Cloud win was impressive but that was a while ago).

              LW is better than LHW and better than sbw too, which is good but with Rigo pricing himself out for almost half a decade, no idea how good Donaire is at this point and Quigg having to rebuild, it has fallen a bit flat.

              FWis ok but a lot like WW, I'm no sure how many fights will ever get made and the quality isn't that much higher than LW.

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              • #8
                Stacked full of paper titlists.

                Here's a stat. Not one of the lightweight 'champions' faced a single top 10 opponent on the way to winning their title.

                That shit has to be some sort of record.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  what has this got to do with some fighters being British? They have the leading fighters at lw, sbw, hw, smw...so is every division where there is a list of british fighters just ****? is that what you're trying to say?
                  You threw both Crolla and Flanagan as names. They're "champions" but they're hardly top fighters. Dudes would get wrecked by decent fighters in practically any better division.
                  British fighters tend to do terrible in divisions with good talent.

                  Lightweight is terrible. Its probably one of the single worst divisions right now. :ROFLMAO:
                  Super Bantam is terrible.
                  Heavies have always just been pretty untalented stiffs, makes sense a guy like Fury can beat an undefeated 10-year champ. In more talented divisions, his skillset would make him a solid gate-keeper.
                  Super Middleweight? Are you serious? DeFail should've lost to ****ing Porky. And even if you think he didn't lose, he performed like **** against a guy nick-named after a looney tunes cartoon pig.

                  For a start, lets go with Fly, Feather, Super Feather, Welter. Cruiser looks good too.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                    Stacked full of paper titlists.

                    Here's a stat. Not one of the lightweight 'champions' faced a single top 10 opponent on the way to winning their title.

                    That shit has to be some sort of record.
                    Thank you. This is what I was going for.

                    They were literally all vacant titles.

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