I always felt like Ike would've been dominant. Just as a contender, he had already out slugged a prime Tua, who would go on to beat several future champions and is always included in fantasy match ups, and who would've became champion himself had he been more disciplined. Byrd, who was also unbeaten and went on to become champion. He was the first to beat both. Had he kept his head, could Lewis, Vitali, Wlad, Holyfield, Michael Grant, Tyson etc survived against this dangerous, volume puncher that many people likened to a bigger, prime Holyfield?
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Who would've beaten a sane, Ike Ibeabuchi in the early 2000s?
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostI always felt like Ike would've been dominant. Just as a contender, he had already out slugged a prime Tua, who would go on to beat several future champions and is always included in fantasy match ups, and who would've became champion himself had he been more disciplined. Byrd, who was also unbeaten and went on to become champion. He was the first to beat both. Had he kept his head, could Lewis, Vitali, Wlad, Holyfield, Michael Grant, Tyson etc survived against this dangerous, volume puncher that many people likened to a bigger, prime Holyfield?
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He's one of these guys who has become massively overrated in time. He was a good B level HW, nothing more. One year after his close win over David Tua, Tua edged out a majority decision win over ATG HW Jeff Wooden W18 L8. Maybe Ike Ibeabuchi vs Jeff Wooden would have been a good fight, but let's not act like this guy was anything great.
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Originally posted by Nash out View PostHe's one of these guys who has become massively overrated in time. He was a good B level HW, nothing more. One year after his close win over David Tua, Tua edged out a majority decision win over ATG HW Jeff Wooden W18 L8. Maybe Ike Ibeabuchi vs Jeff Wooden would have been a good fight, but let's not act like this guy was anything great.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostTua never beat a tall skilled heavyweight and neither did Ike. I'd pick Vits, Louis, Holyfield possibly to beat him. At that time I do think he beats Wlad.
I think Evander was a bit too past it to handle Ike at that time, that fight could've only happened post Lennox series where he looked closer to shot than in his hay day. At least judging from the first fight. Been a while since I've seen the second one, but I recently watched and scored the first fight and gave Holyfield just 3 rounds and even those weren't decisive.
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Originally posted by Nash out View PostHe's one of these guys who has become massively overrated in time. He was a good B level HW, nothing more. One year after his close win over David Tua, Tua edged out a majority decision win over ATG HW Jeff Wooden W18 L8. Maybe Ike Ibeabuchi vs Jeff Wooden would have been a good fight, but let's not act like this guy was anything great.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostI always felt like Ike would've been dominant. Just as a contender, he had already out slugged a prime Tua, who would go on to beat several future champions and is always included in fantasy match ups, and who would've became champion himself had he been more disciplined. Byrd, who was also unbeaten and went on to become champion. He was the first to beat both. Had he kept his head, could Lewis, Vitali, Wlad, Holyfield, Michael Grant, Tyson etc survived against this dangerous, volume puncher that many people likened to a bigger, prime Holyfield?
Truth be told, if we're going that route, what if I had launched my wt training program and eaten a berry pie and half gallon of ice cream on an everyday basis instead of part time and turned pro, could Ike get past me?
I'm faster and harder hitting than Byrd not to mention smarter.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostI always felt like Ike would've been dominant. Just as a contender, he had already out slugged a prime Tua, who would go on to beat several future champions and is always included in fantasy match ups, and who would've became champion himself had he been more disciplined. Byrd, who was also unbeaten and went on to become champion. He was the first to beat both. Had he kept his head, could Lewis, Vitali, Wlad, Holyfield, Michael Grant, Tyson etc survived against this dangerous, volume puncher that many people likened to a bigger, prime Holyfield?
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Originally posted by uncle ben View PostI think Tony Galento could have beaten him. Ike had lots of trouble with Tua, who was like Galento, but a little worse.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostYou're definitely joking, which is why I can't take this seriously. Guy was a Journeyman and alcoholic, and probably had the worst diet of any heavyweight that fought for a title (including Tua). He was durable and had a mean hook, but he gets stopped brutally by both Ike and Tua.
I do think IBeuchi was very talented and would beat Galento. Tua...Probably as well. My heart tells me that Ibeuchi was phenomenal... But my head tells me we had to see more before he went off the reservation.
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