Andre Ward Vs Usyk

[elfag]

Ward was a small light heavy even though he beat up Kovalev, doubt he would do as good at cruiserweight.

"beat up" is a great way to describe stopping someone with a literal 5 punch combination to the balls.

[Prince Madison]

In a neutral country? Usyk 117-111. In america? Ward 115-113.

[Dontbeahater]

just 1? he needed 2 just to fight ggg and 3 for kovalev. you are more confident than ward himself. lets give him 10 tune ups to see where hes at

Say Wha? He needed 2 to adjust to moving up to 175. Guess winning multiple belts at different weight classes against ranked top 5 p4p fighters at the time wasn't enough for you.
Ggg did you just make that up? I thought he needed 1 since he had that layoff due to promoter issues. But doesn't matter since ggg ran away so fast from taking that L.

[Havoctka]

Ward takes him to school
No fighter with 15 fights gonna faze a grand master like ward
No contest

[Boksfan]

Murica is the most corrupted so Ward will get decision there.

[IronDanHamza]

he's already an atg in the minds of people who ignore that he was a huge cheating piece of crap

This bitter shtick you have going is embarrassing at this point.

All humour it totally gone it's just sad as hell now.

[BillyBoxing]

Ward (immediately after the Kovalev fight) by UD, this wasn't even prime Bellew in there and he managed to steal 4 rounds before gassing out. Bellew hadn't even fought at cruiser in 2 years, and the skill gap between him and Ward is so massive it wouldn't even be fair.

Based on what? Usyk isn't miles away from Ward's accomplishments in boxing. He's more decorated as an amateur, as a pro also cleaned up his own division winning a tournament,
he just lacks the 2 division title IMO

Ward couldn't clearly outbox Kovalev, went life and death for 20 rounds before scoring a TKO,
he's not outboxing Usyk who is a more fundamentally sound fighter than Kovalev and has a lot of reach.

He's not either bullying Usyk who is far bigger than Kovalev.

Unless Ward brings back increased unseen special power at CW he's not beating that guy.

[j0zef]

Well lets not pretend that Kovalev didn’t put Ward down and arguably won the first fight. Even in the second fight it was pretty even until Kovalev fully gassed.

We all saw that Kovalev has serious issues. Just listen his trainer at the time - he was drunk during his camp.

Well done for Ward, he is a HOF no doubt, but lets be realistic. His chances against Usyk would be very slim. That doesn’t take anything from him. If they were the same size, that would have been an interesting match-up. I still think Ward would struggle with a high output though..

Realistic answer here. Nice job.

[Cutthroat]

Well.. Kovalev was winning most rounds against Ward before gassing out in the 1st fight and even put him down. Similar, in the 2nd fight it was pretty balanced before he gassed. And kovalev is not the most skilled fighter, huge puncher, but not a skilled master...

Bellew put everything in the first 4-5 rounds. Paulie had it spot on - Bellew had a great game plan, throwing every 20-30 secs with loads of movement, hoping for an opening. However, that gameplan cost him draining himself in the first 1/3 of the fight, while Usyk didn’t even switched to the 2nd gear.

Ward couldn't best Kovalev in a jab war or at the distance. Only when he got inside, he manage to get a success. I don’t think that gives him most chance against much more skilled and much bigger Usyk (compared to Kovalev).

Ward worked Kovalev's body both fights causing him to gas, Usyk had serious trouble even establishing his jab and didn't land anything clean until the very end of the 5th when Bellew got careless.

There is a massive gap in skill between Sergey & Bellew, there are A LOT of guys better than Bellew at LHW.

Bellew's career was over at LHW until he revived it in a weak cruiser division. Even when a shot Cleverly moved up to fight him at cruiser he could barley beat him by a SD, so it's not like he transformed into this completely different fighter.


Bellew gassed largely because he hadn't fought at cruiser in 2 years and is already 35, this wasn't even the best version of Bellew, it was one of the weakest.

[Cutthroat]

Based on what? Usyk isn't miles away from Ward's accomplishments in boxing. He's more decorated as an amateur, as a pro also cleaned up his own division winning a tournament,
he just lacks the 2 division title IMO

Ward couldn't clearly outbox Kovalev, went life and death for 20 rounds before scoring a TKO,
he's not outboxing Usyk who is a more fundamentally sound fighter than Kovalev and has a lot of reach.

He's not either bullying Usyk who is far bigger than Kovalev.

Unless Ward brings back increased unseen special power at CW he's not beating that guy.

Based on how poor Usyk looked against a 35 year old Tony Bellew that hasn't made cruiser in 2 years. He didn't exactly impress against Briedis either.

LHW is a whole lot stronger than cruiser.

Bellew couldn't even clearly out box a shot Nathan Cleverly at cruiser, but he was out boxing Usyk. In terms of skill Ward is a completely different class than all of Usyk's opponents, especially Bellew.