How would Pac do against the champions Floyd beat for his titles?

[dan_cov]

Walking backwards is what your considering as movement? Fuk, some of you are more clueless that I thought. The movement he'd need to counter pacquiao would be dashes or stutter steps to keep or gain the distance he wants vs a fast energetic pacquiao, that's how marquez did it, that's how floyd did it. Golovkin doesnt use his feet to feint, or quickly gain a position, not anymore anyway. Not to mention he was lying on the ropes for large durations in that fight. Canelo, inexperienced and at 165lbs at that gets badly beaten, kid will burn out quick and just get punished in the second half of the fight, his guard is not at clotteys level and even mayweather had to just stay away from pacquiao's offense (grab or jump away), and that pacquiao wasnt as strong as when he had ariza on board.

Of course its considered movement.
Just because they utilised such techniques doesn't mean that has to be replicated there's always more than one way to skin a cat, he has half a dozen losses and no two fights are the same. And just because a fighter has rarely if ever displayed something it doesn't mean he can't (Just like how Canelo apparently didn't have the feet to avoid GGG).

Floyd stayed away from everyones offense lol
He couldn't put combinations together like he once could and became increasingly negative during his latter years. I'm certain if Morales can stand in front of Manny and outfight him using an aggressive counterpunching style Canelo can if need be. Frankly he can beat him a number of ways not just because of his size but because he's the smarter fighter with the better boxing brain.

Its a predictable fight with Manny starting great for 3-4 rounds 6 being kind. His speed and angles absolutely would cause problems but he's human and that 20+ lb weight advantage WILL take its tole, those bodyshots will sink in and he will slow down. He'll become even more stationary, he'll start coming in in straight lines not moving his head and get wiped out. We've all seen it dozens of times, there are weight divisions for a reason. No 5ft6, 143lb man is beating a 170lb Canelo.

Floyd will always do better against counterpunchers, Manny will always do better against pressure fighters.

[TheBigLug]

Canelo is probably the most dangerous hit he was a zombie and pac would de la Hoya him

What nonsense. Canelo weighed in at 153 in the previous fight anyway.

De La Hoya hadn't fought anywhere near 147 for years.

[Thraxox]

He's improved since for sure but a 152 Canelo is still a bad muvver****er and still beats Manny.

This whole 152 thing is massively overblown imo purely to discredit Floyd. Canelo was more than young enough to get away with it and I seen zero evidence he was drained. Wasn't Canelo making like 153 & ½ like a yr later?

Ward knows more about boxing than I'll ever know but at that time I believe Floyd upset Ward with some comments about Ward not being P4P if I remember correctly and there was a bit of discrediting going on.

Of course its overblown because thats what everyone saw. Everyone in NSB noted that the catchweight will be significant and every experts that saw Canelo in the weigh in saw the impact of the catchweight, Andre ward said that Canelo is so drained that he had to sit down immediately after the weigh in, every credible boxing site quoted Canelo that he has a hard time on making 152, and complained that Mayweather demanded the fight at 147 even.

It's just a coincidence right that after Canelo made 152 he never made 154 and goes right through 155 right?

It's just a coincidence right that Canelo Alvarez looked like a dried potato in the fight? lol.

[dan_cov]

I don't recall NSB saying anything of the sort in fact I recall many picking Canelo and the odds being the closest for a Floyd fight in years it wasn't until after Floyd put on a clinic people brought up the weight to discredit him.

Floyd did himself no favours with that one admittedly and while I've been fairly critical of Floyd in the past I don't personally see the weight as an issues. He didn't look drained to me and when you're younger you can get away with it, its as you get older mid-twenties you typically don't recover as well. Like someone said he made 153 just 5 months earlier just fine for Trout.

[dan_cov]

Canelo has always fought at catchweights even vs Lopez even for Trout that was actually a ridiculous 153.5lb catchweight why would he demand catchweights under the limit if it was such an issue? Then come in actually almost ½ a lb under that.

[Outworn]

Pac would beat all of them. Most via ko/tko. Pac that beat Margarito would beat Drainelo that floyd fought.

Pac wouldn't need to cheap shot Ortiz like a classless POS like floyd did.

[WesternChamp]

I don't recall NSB saying anything of the sort in fact I recall many picking Canelo and the odds being the closest for a Floyd fight in years it wasn't until after Floyd put on a clinic people brought up the weight to discredit him.

Floyd did himself no favours with that one admittedly and while I've been fairly critical of Floyd in the past I don't personally see the weight as an issues. He didn't look drained to me and when you're younger you can get away with it, its as you get older mid-twenties you typically don't recover as well. Like someone said he made 153 just 5 months earlier just fine for Trout.

the same can be said about manny vs cotto. nobody gave manny a shot to beat cotto. but then after the fight, all the excuses comes running in. "cotto was drained", "cotto basically trained himself", etc. and by the way, it was only 1 lb difference when pac fought cotto at 145, where as in cotto's previous fight against clottey it was at 146, and cotto won that fight!

[Johnwoo8686]

according to Oscar and Mosley they hit about the same, Manny just threw more shots

Mosley definitely said Manny hit harder than Floyd.

[WesternChamp]

Mosley definitely said Manny hit harder than Floyd.

yeah, didnt he said the punch from pac was weird because it didnt felt like it was hard but it was one of the hardest punches he took??

[WesternChamp]

Mayweather didn't struggle with Alvarez though.

correct, but canelo was one of his best win so that's why canelo's name was brought up.