Mike Tyson is 0-5 in his real tests(Teddy Atlas)

[strykr619]

Does Teddy have valid points????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wCZY_vW860

Sorry but Teddy Atlas isn't the most objective of people when it comes to Mike Tyson so anything he has to say pertaining to him is not worth discussing.

[strykr619]

Mike's fans saying he beat a bunch of B level fighter! B level! Lol. More like X, Y and Z level. Maybe a couple of C level guys, and one B level guy in Spinks, but he was a cruiser. Fact is, Mike got destroyed by Danny Williams when Mike was still in his prime. Check his age at time of fight. A heavyweight that age is prime. And fact is, he never beat anyone as good as Danny Williams in his so called prime. Mike was fringe world level at best.

Tyson in his prime age? Idiot he was out of his prime already coming out of Prison. You have zero clue what you are talking about.

[strykr619]

Because Cus D'Amato fired him after the gun pulling incident on Tyson/Tyson putting moves on Atlas's wife's niece thing.

Teddy tried to say rape when in reality he was a racist and didn't like a 15 year old "black boy" hitting on his 13 year old niece. Teddy is KNOWN to have anger issues.... Lets not talk about him planning on killing Lalonde.

[johnbook]

Interview was fascinating at times. I didn't know about Tyson hiding between walls as a kid. But given Atlas's cred, who knows if it's true. Tyson did win fights like Ruddock I where he took some bombs.

But re Tyson-Holyfield 2 fights, he has a point. And Tyson complaining about Holy's butting etc is sour grapes as Tyson was often a very dirty fighter. Plenty of head butts, forearms, elbows and trying to clamp down and dislocate opponent's shoulder including vs Holy in first fight. Holy gave it back. So re Holyfield, Atlas has a bit of a point.

[jaded]

Teddy tried to say rape when in reality he was a racist and didn't like a 15 year old "black boy" hitting on his 13 year old niece. Teddy is KNOWN to have anger issues.... Lets not talk about him planning on killing Lalonde.

Why not? They are his own words...

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2007...ring-sons.html

Teddy Atlas From The Streets To The Ring: A Son's Struggle To Become A Man
By Teddy Atlas and Peter Alson


This is one of the better boxing books that I have read in quite a while. This is not just the story of a man’s journey through the boxing world, but of a man’s journey through life, that happens to take place in the world of boxing. You don’t have to be a fan of boxing to enjoy this book, but it probably helps to know the characters Atlas is writing about. Teddy Atlas was born into an established but dysfunctional family, headed by a father that was unable to give him (at least on the surface) the love and approval he needed.

Atlas wisely does not over dwell on his association with Mike Tyson, but gives a matter of fact and honest account of his time with Tyson, and with Cus D’Amato, his mentor and surrogate father. The most compelling areas of the book are when Atlas reveals his own dark side, particularly when describing how he was planning Donny Lalonde’s murder, which fortunately for both Atlas and Lalonde, never happened. Also intriguing is Atlas' take on the pychological aspect of boxing, which plays a large part in his coaching and method style.

[cupcrazy01]

Atlas is telling half truths and making exaggerations, as always.

The Spinks win was an ATG performance, Spinks was considered P4P top 10 at that time.

The Ruddock wins were also great performances. Sure he wasn't on Holyfield or (later) Lewis' level, but he was just one step below. Prime Ruddock would be in today's top 5 easy with Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz.

He was absolutely sleepwalking in the Douglas fight and took a savage beating, but a lesser man would have folded much sooner and he still almost won the fight with a comeback KO. That Douglas would have beaten prime Holyfield that night, too. PLEASE do not compare those fights, the Douglas who showed up for his Holyfield fight would be like Foreman fighting today against Wilder.

Also, post-prison Tyson was no longer great but he was still very good and, as mentioned in this thread, unified the division. The Golota win was impressive (later changed to no contest but it was really a stoppage if you recall). He was actually handling Williams with ease until the knee blew out. We would have seen Vitali-Tyson if that didn't happen. Now, I do think Vitali would have beaten him at that point, but that was a way past-it Tyson, but he was still good enough to beat the fringe contenders of the early to mid aughts.

[BM dnobagaV]

his best win is micheal spinks. and thats not saying much. what makes Tyson so mystic is that he went to Prison for while, cus died it affected him heavy. he had some set backs so every one blames all his loses on outside the ring events. Mike is a case of "what if" what if he never went to Prison etc. And we all know everybody gets the victory when people say what if.

Spinks is an ATG. "Not saying much"

[FRANKIE420247]

What's atlas record? The guy needs to let it go. He always has something bad to day about the champ.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Spinks is an ATG. "Not saying much"

his resume it's really a list of who's who

[Chuckguy]

Does Teddy have valid points????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wCZY_vW860

I saw this and I agree with teddy.