Is there a significant benefit for boxers to roid up 14 days before a fight?

[killacash]

Why are you on a boxing forum asking fans who have no experiences with using enhancements in boxing? If you want the answers for yourself go to school for exercise science and physical major. Or better yet mingle with the underworld of boxing and do your research there. But your not gonna do that, your just gonna ignore this post and say that you are right and whomever is wrong yadda yadda yadda. Delete this ****in thread

[IMDAZED]

Nope, 14 days is mostly a cool down period. Boxers usually enhance themselves when they take extended leaves/breaks from boxing.

14 days is most definitely not a cool down period, when fighters are shedding the last few ounces. Even Pacquiao said so, remember? As his reason for not wanting to be tested then . Anyway, Victor Conte has stated that there are PEDS, particularly those related to blood, that are very beneficial if used within the last two weeks. Why would a fighter ask for that much time anyway? Stupid or suspicious, which is it?

[led]

Roid up??

No.


EPO??? Yes.

please, explain. thanks.

[trk]

You can get a significant benefit from roiding up even 1 day before the fight.

Look at the case of Floyd Landis: In the 2006 Tour de France, Landis was leading up through stage 15. However, in the 16th stage he had a horrible performance and lost a ton of time. So he decided to take synthetic testosterone to try and turn things around. In the 17th stage, he put in one of the most incredible cycling performances ever and regained almost all the time that he had lost. Unfortunately for him, he had to take a drug test right after the stage and was caught.

So there definitely are PEDs that will give an athlete immediate benefits. The only real question is whether there are any PEDs like that that can only be found by random blood tests before the fight.

[Jack3d]

please, explain. thanks.

He thinks that EPO can take effect in two weeks. But it can't

The injection period alone is ED for 2 weeks during the 3rd week is when it starts to kick in, but the effects during week 3 are still not very noticeable.

[Canelo Phresh]

C. How is blood doping and Erythropoietin commonly used?
Typically, blood doping involves removing 2 to 4 units (900-1800ml) of blood from an individual. The RBCs are spun and separated from plasma, then stored in glycerol. After a 2-3 month time delay, which allows for restoration of RBC in the athlete, and about 3-5 days before competition, the RBC are "washed" and reinfused. Because of the storage in glycerol, the RBC are well preserved. Donor blood can be used, but risk is increased due to the possibility of blood borne pathogens. The benefit of donor blood is that the individual does not have to go through the period of regeneration of their own RBCs.
http://www.nsca-lift.org/Education/NPEDP/epo.shtml

3-5 days before performance. please shut the **** up about it not being effective 2 weeks out.

[Bretty Poy32]

C. How is blood doping and Erythropoietin commonly used?
Typically, blood doping involves removing 2 to 4 units (900-1800ml) of blood from an individual. The RBCs are spun and separated from plasma, then stored in glycerol. After a 2-3 month time delay, which allows for restoration of RBC in the athlete, and about 3-5 days before competition, the RBC are "washed" and reinfused. Because of the storage in glycerol, the RBC are well preserved. Donor blood can be used, but risk is increased due to the possibility of blood borne pathogens. The benefit of donor blood is that the individual does not have to go through the period of regeneration of their own RBCs.
http://www.nsca-lift.org/Education/NPEDP/epo.shtml

3-5 days before performance. please shut the **** up about it not being effective 2 weeks out.

[| THE KING |]

14 days is most definitely not a cool down period, when fighters are shedding the last few ounces. Even Pacquiao said so, remember? As his reason for not wanting to be tested then . Anyway, Victor Conte has stated that there are PEDS, particularly those related to blood, that are very beneficial if used within the last two weeks. Why would a fighter ask for that much time anyway? Stupid or suspicious, which is it?

"Every time he walks in through the doors of Wild Card, he's focused on what he needs to do," Roach says. Pacquiao starts at four rounds early in his training cycle and gradually builds up to 12 before cutting back in the last two weeks before the fight. "On average, he'll use three sparring partners a day, because most of them can't hang with him for more than four rounds."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n52938036/

[AFighter4U]

You can get a significant benefit from roiding up even 1 day before the fight.

Look at the case of Floyd Landis: In the 2006 Tour de France, Landis was leading up through stage 15. However, in the 16th stage he had a horrible performance and lost a ton of time. So he decided to take synthetic testosterone to try and turn things around. In the 17th stage, he put in one of the most incredible cycling performances ever and regained almost all the time that he had lost. Unfortunately for him, he had to take a drug test right after the stage and was caught.

So there definitely are PEDs that will give an athlete immediate benefits. The only real question is whether there are any PEDs like that that can only be found by random blood tests before the fight.

There is no question in my mind about PEDs benefiting cyclists. The fact that so many cyclists use it and are caught shows there is a definite benefit there. My question is for boxers. Can taking PEDs or EPO just two weeks right before a fight actually benefit them and what scientific studies were made to show that? You may cite personal experience or something similar, but i'd very much prefer if you could provide links to journals or studies for such.

[led]

C. How is blood doping and Erythropoietin commonly used?
Typically, blood doping involves removing 2 to 4 units (900-1800ml) of blood from an individual. The RBCs are spun and separated from plasma, then stored in glycerol. After a 2-3 month time delay, which allows for restoration of RBC in the athlete, and about 3-5 days before competition, the RBC are "washed" and reinfused. Because of the storage in glycerol, the RBC are well preserved. Donor blood can be used, but risk is increased due to the possibility of blood borne pathogens. The benefit of donor blood is that the individual does not have to go through the period of regeneration of their own RBCs.
http://www.nsca-lift.org/Education/NPEDP/epo.shtml

3-5 days before performance. please shut the **** up about it not being effective 2 weeks out.

wtf? are you and manny presh, one person?