Comments Thread For: Wilder-Fury Rematch: Purse Bid Set For February 5, 60-40 Split

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Warren explicitly said that BT were putting up money because they wanted to buy control of the fight and screen it themselves.

BT wanted to bid on the fight, but the $50 million offer to AJ wasn't contingent on the fight airing on BT. Finkel repeatedly said he had no problem with the fight being on Sky as long as they paid fair market value.

[kafkod]

BT wanted to bid on the fight, but the $50 million offer to AJ wasn't contingent on the fight airing on BT. Finkel repeatedly said he had no problem with the fight being on Sky as long as they paid fair market value.

So Sky could have outbid BT for something they already own .. which is the right to screen an AJ fight in the UK.

[Prince Madison]

Pointless rematch.. I'm sick to death of rematches because the judges ****ed up the scoring in the first fight. We know who the better fighter is, time to move on.

[that g]

This BT Sport involvement is a red herring.

Warren says that Finkel contacted him when he was putting together a counter offer to Eddie Hearn. Finkel asked Warren to go to his contacts at BT Sport for a quote on how much a Joshua v Wilder fight in the US could make in UK PPV. They would then use this number whilst calculating what the fight was worth and how much they could offer AJ to sign. So BT Sport weren't funding the $50m, they were giving the US based team an idea of the market value of the UK rights to the fight.

This has subsequently been spun into BT Sport funding the offer or that the $50m offer was dependent on BT sport getting the rights. I don't believe this was the case. I think the plan would be to tell Sky, 'this is what we think the fight is worth, match or better it or your guy will be appearing on the rival BT Sport network'

one thing i don't understand on this site is this: why exactly is it so important to you that the narrative is a particular way, regardless of the truth?

you have frank warren AND lou dibella, the two people who would know, telling you that the 50m offer was being funded by bt, yet we have folks like this who just ignore that just to push a false narrative. you have wilder-fury purses published, and wbc ordering for a 60-40 rematch in wilder's favour, yet people still argue that the first fight was 50-50, and that wilder is the one really pushing for the rematch. how sway?

why is it so important to you and others that AJ and hearn are seen as ducking, even though AJ has the best resume at 22 fights?

i'm an AJ fan, but if he does something wrong, so be it. if he screws up, oh well. if he's truly ducked wilder, then yea that's bad. but why not let the available facts prove that? why continue to try to force and twist every event and bit of news to fit a predetermined conclusion?

this constant attempt to twist the facts and every bit of news to match up with an anti-hearn, anti-AJ, anti-dazn narrative is just beyond me. it's not like we know your real iden****** so we can come to your day job to ridicule you or fire you for being wrong on anything.
if you haven't noticed, the more you guys try to spin and spin, the more information comes out that negates your position.

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So Sky could have outbid BT for something they already own .. which is the right to screen an AJ fight in the UK.

Sky and AJ negotiate for each PPV what the marketing guarantees will be, what the advance will be, etc.

You can't ask for $50 million and then also expect to keep the UK money in addition to the $50 million.

[kafkod]

Sky and AJ negotiate for each PPV what the marketing guarantees will be, what the advance will be, etc.

You can't ask for $50 million and then also expect to keep the UK money in addition to the $50 million.

AJ already has a contractual agreement with Sky. If the $50million offer had been negotiated properly - rather than posted on social media - Sky would have had to be in on those negotiations right from the start.

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AJ already has a contractual agreement with Sky. If the $50million offer had been negotiated properly - rather than posted on social media - Sky would have had to be in on those negotiations right from the start.

The $50 million offer was negotiated properly. The offer was emailed to AJ and Hearn. Hearn, Finkel and Haymon spent weeks negotiating the fight. Hearn said publicly negotiations were going well, Finkel and Haymon had answered all of his questions and the answers were satisfactory.

AJ ultimately decided he wanted to take less money to fight in the UK.

Only months later, when the coast was clear, did Hearn change his story to the fight being blocked by TV rights.

[kafkod]

The $50 million offer was negotiated properly. The offer was emailed to AJ and Hearn. Hearn, Finkel and Haymon spent weeks negotiating the fight. Hearn said publicly negotiations were going well, Finkel and Haymon had answered all of his questions and the answers were satisfactory.

AJ ultimately decided he wanted to take less money to fight in the UK.

Only months later, when the coast was clear, did Hearn change his story to the fight being blocked by TV rights.

Bullshit.

The offer was posted on social media with a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline and Finkel refused to discuss it with Hearn unless AJ accepted the money first. AJ never accepted the money.

Frank Warren said that Finkel showed him the details of the offer before Hearn even knew about it, so how the heck could Eddie have helped put it together?

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Bullshit.

The offer was posted on social media with a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline and Finkel refused to discuss it with Hearn unless AJ accepted the money first. AJ never accepted the money.

Frank Warren said that Finkel showed him the details of the offer before Hearn even knew about it, so how the heck could Eddie have helped put it together?

The offer was submitted via email, like most offers are. Then Wilder went on social media to encourage AJ to check his email.

The "accept by the end of tomorrow" deadline is the same exact deadline Hearn included in his 12.5 million offer. Wilder copying & pasting Hearn's ridiculous deadline into his own offer to show Hearn how silly his deadline was has nothing to do with whether the offer was legit. The offer remained on the table for weeks if not months, with Hearn admitting he was in serious negotiations for the 50 million offer. By Hearn's own admission, the offer ultimately wasn't accepted because AJ decided to fight at home for less money.