Luis Ortiz "resume" took a MASSIVE hit at the weekend - Page 2

jackson8

Wlad had a hard time with Bryant Jennings years before he lost to AJ.

BufordTannen

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Originally Posted by earl-hickey

Yeah Mayne

Jennings is clearly passed prime at 34

it was still 3 years ago, this thread sucks

earl-hickey

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Originally Posted by jackson8

Wlad had a hard time with Bryant Jennings years before he lost to AJ.

Lol @ hard time

Wlad had an off night and still tooled Jennings

Pan-Africanist

That fight was years ago who gives a ****. Takam and Parker have both lost since fighting Joshua.

earl-hickey

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Originally Posted by Pan-Africanist

That fight was years ago who gives a ****. Takam and Parker have both lost since fighting Joshua.

Yeah but Joshua has other good wins

Ortiz doesn't

kafkod

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Originally Posted by earl-hickey

Wlad just had an off night with Jennings and was dealing with a corrupt referee and still schooled him.

Yeah the ref was clearly corrupt. Jab and grab is ok for US fighters like Ward, so why wouldn't he let Wlad do it?

kafkod

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Originally Posted by BufordTannen

that fight was 3 years ago.. people get worse over time you know

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Originally Posted by earl-hickey

Yeah Mayne

Jennings is clearly passed prime at 34

And some people improve over time.

48 yo Buster Blood Vessel Ortiz is clearly much closer to his prime now than he was 3 years ago.

Timothy Tait

Luis "Queen Mong" Ortiz....that geriatric ain't shet and has never been shet. Boogeyman only to those who fantasize about a big black Cuban sneaking into they bedroom at night and hiding under they bed.

#Fortiz is in his forties

boliodogs

That's unfair. Ortiz's win over Jennings doesn't become worse because Jennings became worse. Take Luis Castillo for example. In his prime he ws a good champion and a win over him was a very good win. Later he went downhill so much that a win over him meant almost nothing. When Ortiz beat Jennings Jennings was well thought of and his win over Jennings is not devalued because Jennings is not nearly as good now as he was when Ortiz beat him. It doesn't work that way.

Kezzer

Bikini dogs. The issue is that people were trying to use Jennings as a benchmark for how good Ortiz is because his resume of opponents is so bad. Where other boxers have numerous opponents to compare this was Ortiz stand out win. Therefore if that win was his only decent win it’s hard to argue Ortiz isn’t overrated by many.

jackson8 Contender Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 477 Quoted: 109 Post(s) Rep Power: 68 Points: 5,589.66 Bank: 1,005.00 Total Points: 6,594.66 Donate	Wlad had a hard time with Bryant Jennings years before he lost to AJ.

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Timothy Tait Exterminator Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 5,003 Quoted: 2175 Post(s) Rep Power: 13 Points: 17,671.68 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 17,671.68 Donate	Luis "Queen Mong" Ortiz....that geriatric ain't shet and has never been shet. Boogeyman only to those who fantasize about a big black Cuban sneaking into they bedroom at night and hiding under they bed. #Fortiz is in his forties

Kezzer Undisputed Champion Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,717 Quoted: 894 Post(s) Rep Power: 7 Points: 16,251.47 Bank: 1,110.26 Total Points: 17,361.73 Donate	Bikini dogs. The issue is that people were trying to use Jennings as a benchmark for how good Ortiz is because his resume of opponents is so bad. Where other boxers have numerous opponents to compare this was Ortiz stand out win. Therefore if that win was his only decent win it’s hard to argue Ortiz isn’t overrated by many.