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Old 01-23-2019, 06:03 PM #11
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Wlad had a hard time with Bryant Jennings years before he lost to AJ.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:04 PM #12
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Yeah Mayne

Jennings is clearly passed prime at 34
it was still 3 years ago, this thread sucks
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:08 PM #13
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Wlad had a hard time with Bryant Jennings years before he lost to AJ.
Lol @ hard time

Wlad had an off night and still tooled Jennings
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:16 PM #14
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That fight was years ago who gives a ****. Takam and Parker have both lost since fighting Joshua.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:19 PM #15
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That fight was years ago who gives a ****. Takam and Parker have both lost since fighting Joshua.
Yeah but Joshua has other good wins

Ortiz doesn't
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:23 PM #16
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Wlad just had an off night with Jennings and was dealing with a corrupt referee and still schooled him.
Yeah the ref was clearly corrupt. Jab and grab is ok for US fighters like Ward, so why wouldn't he let Wlad do it?
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:29 PM #17
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that fight was 3 years ago.. people get worse over time you know
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Yeah Mayne

Jennings is clearly passed prime at 34
And some people improve over time.

48 yo Buster Blood Vessel Ortiz is clearly much closer to his prime now than he was 3 years ago.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:37 PM #18
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Luis "Queen Mong" Ortiz....that geriatric ain't shet and has never been shet. Boogeyman only to those who fantasize about a big black Cuban sneaking into they bedroom at night and hiding under they bed.

#Fortiz is in his forties
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That's unfair. Ortiz's win over Jennings doesn't become worse because Jennings became worse. Take Luis Castillo for example. In his prime he ws a good champion and a win over him was a very good win. Later he went downhill so much that a win over him meant almost nothing. When Ortiz beat Jennings Jennings was well thought of and his win over Jennings is not devalued because Jennings is not nearly as good now as he was when Ortiz beat him. It doesn't work that way.
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Bikini dogs. The issue is that people were trying to use Jennings as a benchmark for how good Ortiz is because his resume of opponents is so bad. Where other boxers have numerous opponents to compare this was Ortiz stand out win. Therefore if that win was his only decent win it’s hard to argue Ortiz isn’t overrated by many.
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