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  • #41
    Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
    What is the actual point of the article?
    seemingly a disclosure of facts that seems to show, in context with some of the other information that's been put out there, that the Golden Boy lawsuit is far thinner than it even seemed when it was initially brought up (while also laying out some significant public information for the various lawsuits that are likely in play/coming in play against Golden Boy, particularly the pending All Star Boxing case that finally made it to trial).

    Golden Boy, based on what's been put out there, will unlikely do all that well in the actual case and will, after this is done with, be in a worse position to carry on then they were when the lawsuit was originally filed.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
      Alvarez is loyal to Oscar and Bhop. The same financial theory was rumoured to have been said to Alvarez from Schaeffer. GBP helped Alvarez out with the All-Star boxing fiasco. Alvarez is where he's at because of Oscar. They're good friends.
      If Oscar goes on another bender, especialy in advance of a significant fight for Alvarez again, I'm not sure how far that loyalty would extend

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        Racism and media collusion to take down Haymon smh. Just like a lot of us have been saying. They when tried to get boxingscene to join their media takedown of Haymon

        FAKE NEWS!!

        http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/1/13...ce-boxing-news

        According to the deposition of Michael Ring, Waddell & Reed’s Media Group Holdings (MGH) made a capital investment of $585 million into Haymon Holdings – the entity that wholly owns Haymon Sports which in-turn runs the operations of the PBC. In a Kansas lawsuit, Waddell investors allege that $925 million was invested into MGH. Bloody Elbow has confirmed, per SEC filings, that Waddell’s Ivy Asset Strategy Fund and W&R Asset Strategy Fund made initial investments into MGH totaling 925,339,000. If $585 million was invested into Haymon Holdings, it is unclear at the moment how the remaining $340 million was used.

        $100 Million

        Haymon offered to purchase Golden Boy Promotions for $100 million in 2013, according to a Motion in Limine filed by the Haymon Defendants. Haymon’s motion is an attempt to keep arguments and evidence of this offer out of the upcoming trial, claiming it has “no bearing” on Golden Boy’s damages or liability theories.

        $38.2 Million

        Deetz calculated the following net amounts paid by Haymon to television networks. For the four networks listed, instead of receiving a rights fee for PBC content, Haymon paid them a grand total of $38,225,000, according to Deetz’s report. Based on available documents, it’s not clear if these are annual figures or the aggregate amount paid over time.
        CBS: $4,225,000
        ESPN: $8,000,000
        FOX: $12,500,000
        NBC: $13,500,000
        $27.7 Million

        Alvarez-Khan generated revenue of $27,707,448 and was Golden Boy’s most profitable fight of 2016. Khan made $6 million and Alvarez made $13,309,664 (80% of the net profits) while Golden Boy made net profits of $3,327,415.88.

        $20 Million

        Deetz estimates Golden Boy’s lost profits due to Haymon’s alleged anticompetitive practices at $20 million.

        $14.4 Million

        An exhibit to a Haymon attorney’s declaration shows a programming agreement from Apr. 7, 2014 between NBC and Haymon Sports with a two-year term and exclusivity for Haymon. It calls for 22 episodes: 12 on NBC Sports Network, 6 on NBC daytime (4-6pm), and 4 on NBC primetime (9-11pm).

        Per the agreement, Haymon is obligated to contract with a “duly licensed” promoter for each event and is responsible for producing each PBC program. NBC is to pay Haymon $150,000 per episode as a contribution to production costs while Haymon owes NBC a time buy fee of $14.4 million each year with the majority of money due every January and September.

        $14 Million

        Haymon en****** paid Golden Boy $10.5 million in January 2015 as part of a December 2014 settlement agreement to the arbitration case involving former Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, according to an expert report by Michael Smith. As part of the deal, Golden Boy lost the promotional rights to 18 boxers including Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Marcos Maidana, Lamont Peterson, Adrien Broner, Peter Quillin, Erislandy Lara, Daniel Jacobs, Abner Mares, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander, Shawn Porter, Robert Guerrero, and Deontay Wilder.

        In February 2015, four more boxers’ exclusive promotional rights were terminated in exchange for $3.5 million, per the Smith expert report.

        $10.5 Million

        Deetz performed an analysis of Golden Boy’s revenues (television revenues, ticket sales, merchandising, sponsorship, co-promotion revenue share, and other revenues), fighter and other expenses, and income from boxing operations for 2014, 2015, the first half of 2016, as well as for each individual boxer on Golden Boy’s roster.

        Golden Boy uses Deetz’s analysis showing an apparent decline in income from boxing operations from roughly $8.8 million in 2014 to substantially less in 2015 and 2016 - when the PBC was in existence - as part of its theory of damages, although the 2016 number is misleading since it only accounts for half the year. Haymon’s side wants to exclude Deetz’s testimony, noting that he “did not even attempt to control for additional or other reasons that [Golden Boy’s] profits might have dipped following 2014,” with an example that Floyd Mayweather was no longer with the promotion in 2015.

        Deetz also breaks down revenues and expenses for each boxer on Golden Boy’s roster. All the following numbers are from his expert report.

        In 2014, even though Floyd Mayweather had a fight under the Golden Boy banner, Saul “Canelo” Alvarez was the promotion’s most profitable fighter. By Deetz’s calculations, Canelo brought in $21,266,606 in total revenue compared to $52,934,945 for Mayweather. But Canelo’s fighter and other expenses were $14,012,597 and $4,196,686, respectively, while Mayweather’s were substantially higher at $35,192,616 and $15,525,427. At the end of the day, Golden Boy earned $3,057,323 in income off Canelo compared to $2,216,902 from Mayweather.

        In 2015, Canelo was far and away Golden Boy’s most profitable fighter, earning the promotion income of $4,415,306 according to Deetz’s spreadsheet. Golden Boy’s second most profitable fighter that year, Luiz Ortiz, brought in a comparatively paltry $307,309. The first half of 2016 was similar with Canelo earning Golden Boy income of $2,988,256, Amir Khan earning the promotion $449,046, Francisco Vargas making them $238,250, and every other fighter earning Golden Boy income of $61,000 or less. And most boxers on Golden Boy’s roster are money losers. In the first half of 2016, Golden Boy earned negative net income on 142 of 155 boxers (91.6%). Only 13 of 155 boxers (8.4%) made Golden Boy positive net income.

        Deetz’s numbers reveal just how incredibly valuable Canelo Alvarez might be to Golden Boy’s bottom line. From 2014 through the first half of 2016, it appears that Golden Boy had combined income from boxing operations of $16,321,659 and Canelo accounted for 10,460,885 of it, or 64.1%. But even this doesn’t reveal the true extent of Golden Boy’s reliance on Canelo since it also appears that Mayweather made the promotion over $2 million in 2014. After Mayweather split with Golden Boy and Haymon bought out his boxers, Canelo accounted for 94% of Golden Boy’s income from boxing operations in 2015 and 107% in the first half of 2016, according to Bloody Elbow’s calculations of financial records in the Deetz’s report.

        At the moment, financially-speaking, Canelo is Golden Boy.

        Television Contracts

        Per the stipulated pre-trial facts:

        Haymon Sports entered into an exclusive time-buy contract with NBC on Apr. 7, 2014, which commenced on Jan. 1, 2015.
        On Jan. 22, 2015, Haymon Sports entered into an exclusive time-buy contract with CBS, but the contract was later terminated by mutual agreement.
        As part of the CBS agreement, Haymon Sports entered into a non-exclusive contract with Showtime.
        Haymon Sports signed a two-year exclusive time-buy contract with ESPN commencing on Jul. 1, 2015.
        Haymon Sports signed an exclusive time-buy contract with Fox Sports commencing on Mar. 31, 2015.
        Haymon Sports signed an exclusive contract with Spike TV commencing on Jan. 1, 2015.
        The Bounce TV agreement to air PBC events was an oral agreement.
        Haymon never sought exclusive contracts with HBO, Showtime, or PPV.
        In May 2016, Haymon Sports waived the exclusivity provisions in its television agreements.
        According Deetz’s expert report, Haymon agreed to waive television exclusivity as part of his 2016 settlement with Top Rank, which had filed a July 2015 antitrust lawsuit that was almost a carbon copy of Golden Boy’s complaint.

        Balderas E-Mails

        Golden Boy is trying to exclude 15 e-mails between journalist Hesiquio Balderas and Golden Boy’s Public Relations Director Ramiro Gonzalez. In certain e-mails, Balderas describes Al Haymon as a “*******” and “black hitler.”

        Golden Boy argues that Haymon is seeking to introduce the e-mails “…to impute Mr. Balderas’ inflammatory comments to Golden Boy, and thereby inflame the passions of the jury.” Haymon notes that 10 of the 15 e-mails don’t contain any inflammatory language, instead “…these emails between Mr. Balderas and Mr. Gonzalez simply concern their joint efforts to distribute English and Spanish versions of articles in which Mr. Balderas portrays Mr. Haymon in an extremely negative light.”

        In his deposition, Gonzalez was asked to translate the key section of Balderas’ e-mail above: “He's going to put it in English and he's going to be a hit. This is interesting the point that Jose mention here, how the, you know, the black hitler has damaged the Abner and Leo career. He put it to fight with only tomato cans. He put those fights to fight with only tomato cans.”

        Regardless of the merits of the antitrust case against Haymon - which will be determined soon enough - it’s easy to see why Golden Boy might not be too happy with him. Not only does it appear that a $100 million buyout offer wasn’t accepted, it seems Haymon then hoodwinked Golden Boy with their December 2014 settlement agreement and subsequent buyout of 22 of his fighters. And then Haymon swooped in with PBC and started paying television networks $38 million while Golden Boy’s annual boxing net income was in the range of $8.8 to 4.7 million.

        Throw in that Haymon was Mayweather’s advisor when he and his sizeable promotional net income (according to Deetz’s numbers) left Golden Boy and it’s probably all pretty frustrating.

        The trial date is currently set for Mar. 14 in Los Angeles. Judge Walter has yet to rule on Haymon’s motion for summary judgment, which could significantly impact the scope of the trial, and possibly cancel it altogether. Bloody Elbow will keep readers updated on major developments in the case.






        I looked up Hesiquio Balderas. He is the one using the N word. He seems to be a journalist for the Ring, which Oscar owns.

        Hesiquio Balderas

        @KikoBalderas

        Lawyer, Journalist , http://******.com Contributor, Founder and director of http://12asaltos.com , Boxing Writer, owner of @BalderasBoxGym
        Mexico, City

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          Because as you can see, boxing writers are too busy colluding with Golden Boy
          To be fair, it's VERY EASY to get these court documents. The time consuming portion is to have someone drop everything they are doing to break down all of the documents piece by piece.

          We had day by day reporting of the Canelo/All Star Boxing trial and the entire Top Rank/Haymon case.

          The GBP lawsuit for the most part is regurgitating the same material the TR lawsuit did about Haymon.

          There is nothing earth shattering in anything reported. NOW, if they had an email with an actual GBP employee making a racial comment about Haymon, that would def be reportable.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
            What is the actual point of the article?
            That's what I was wondering. I've read it all thoroughly - think I understand it, but am left thinking 'so..?' Maybe these rather banal and entirely unsurprising disclosures matter more to the US fans or something?

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            • #46
              Interesting...

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              • #47
                So basically golden boy is going no where fast.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                  To be fair, it's VERY EASY to get these court documents. The time consuming portion is to have someone drop everything they are doing to break down all of the documents piece by piece.

                  We had day by day reporting of the Canelo/All Star Boxing trial and the entire Top Rank/Haymon case.

                  The GBP lawsuit for the most part is regurgitating the same material the TR lawsuit did about Haymon.

                  There is nothing earth shattering in anything reported. NOW, if they had an email with an actual GBP employee making a racial comment about Haymon, that would def be reportable.
                  The writer writes for Ring and he called the Goldenboy PR guy "boss". Do you really think there's a difference between Ring the magazine and Golden Boy Promotions? Who fired the writers and editors of Ring back in 2011? The fact that the writer felt comfortable saying that to Golden Boy's PR let's me know it's not his first time and it goes both ways.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    The writer writes for Ring and he called the Goldenboy PR guy "boss". Do you really think there's a difference between Ring the magazine and Golden Boy Promotions? Who fired the writers and editors of Ring back in 2011? The fact that the writer felt comfortable saying that to Golden Boy's PR let's me know it's not his first time and it goes both ways.
                    Ring is owned by GBP. You never saw a single negative thing about Haymon there - until he stopped working with GBP.

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