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  • #11
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
    Toney was age 34 at 175 against Kazakh thundering Gold Medalist Jirov..
    Actually it was 205 cruiserweight

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Actually it was 205 cruiserweight


      got confused with Jirov winning Gold at LHW

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      • #13
        Toney was better, Hopkins was greater.

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        • #14
          Hopkins by a country mile. Not even close to arguable.

          And that goes for career, skills AND talent.

          I can't even begin to fathom how one sided a Hopkins vs Toney fight would be.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
            And toney has the better wins


            Nunn and mccallum crap all over any of hopkins wins, even tito
            Maybe if you look at them on paper and pretend that he didn't scrape by McCallum and look like utter **** against Nunn for 90% of the fight then yeah.

            Hopkins utter domination of Tito is better than any performance Toney ever had then again Toney didn't dominate any top fighter he faced.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
              Toney was age 34 at 175 against Kazakh thundering Gold Medalist Jirov..
              And he was 24 when Dave Tiberi beat him from pillar to post.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Maybe if you look at them on paper and pretend that he didn't scrape by McCallum and look like utter **** against Nunn for 90% of the fight then yeah.

                Hopkins utter domination of Tito is better than any performance Toney ever had then again Toney didn't dominate any top fighter he faced.
                Tito at middleweight is not in the same class as mccallum or nunn there..

                And who cares if he just scraped by mccallum... No one ever had a dominant win over mccallum in his prime

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  Tito at middleweight is not in the same class as mccallum or nunn there..

                  And who cares if he just scraped by mccallum... No one ever had a dominant win over mccallum in his prime
                  He's easily the same level as Nunn, if not better.

                  Who cares? Erm..

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                  • #19
                    Toney had more talent, but Hopkins was "better".

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                      Toney was age 34 at 175 against Kazakh thundering Gold Medalist Jirov..
                      Still one of my favorite fights ever, behind Chico/JLC, Leonard/Hearns 1, Duran/Leonard 1, and Holyfield/Bowe trilogy.

                      And Toney was the better fighter.

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