Should Joshua Be #1 P4P??

[g27region]

So what you're trying to tell me? That Joshua has better resume than Kovalev? I don't see the point of this arguing

Dude what has Campillo done? Guy got steamrolled by Beatable easy.

Campillo was #3 in the division at the time and Kovalev was an underdog, check the old threads about the fight, see if I'm bull****ting

Fact is Kovalev only has a 49 year old on his resume

Cleverly, Campillo, Chilemba or Pascal are not elite wins, but they were top 10 light heavyweights and in this era it's good enough to keep him in p4p list and it's still better than most of Golovkin's or Crawford's wins

and aint dominate **** coz he ducked purse bid to fight Stevenson and lost to Ward, but I bet he on that list of yours.

When was the last time Stevenson had relevant fight?

He's on the list of 90% of boxing fans out here. Ask them if Joshua has more accomplishments than Kovalev

Who said I got Mikey and Rigo in my list?

I guess you don't have Loma or Kovalev on your list too, and you still asked me about them

Crawford, unlike Loma, aint lost to no bum. He's unbeaten in his many more fights than Loma and he is a two division champion too.

His best wins are small chinny Gamboa after 1 year of inactivity and overrated Postol with 41% KO ratio and non-existent amateur experience, that is a fact too. Even mummy version of Hopkins is a better win than that

Walters aint no great fighter wtf! Aint no one was talking about Walters before he was lined up to fight Loma, same with Sosa. No one was talking about these clowns at all, but soon as they get in the ring with Loma they are these great victories.

You say nobody was talking about Walters? Stop that ****. When Walters KO'd Marriaga, Darchinyan and Donaire (a p4p fighter at that time, in case you don't know) a lot of posters were making threads, asking if Walters worthy of being in p4p list. I always back up my words, like I've said, check if I'm bull****ting

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656373&highlight=Walters

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694057&highlight=Walters

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=693135&highlight=Walters

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=693212&highlight=Walters

A lot of posters were saying that Lomachenko ducked Walters or that Lomachenko has to beat Walters to prove himself. That's another fact. But after all is said and done, after Walters got his ass whooped with ease, he's a "bum" now.

Matter of fact, it was the best possible fight for Lomachenko in this weight class and at this period of time. Name me just ONE opponent who could be a better win than Walters at 130. Just one name, I don't need more

It's the same with GGG and Lemule, GGG and Monroe, etc etc. All these guys suddenly became these great fighter when they were lined up to fight these guys.

Yeah, yeah, it reminds me of Postol bum who's elite now based on pulling off an upset against eye-injured overrated brawler Matthysse. That's the same ****, no difference. The only difference is that Lemule, Monroe and Postol never beat p4p fighters like Walters beat Donaire. And I don't remember people making threads asking if Postol or Lemule should be in top 10 p4p either

Take a look at the Postol situation. 'Everybody' (you know who am talkin bwt) was all about how Postol was the best at 140lbs after he beat Mathysse, how much of a skilled and technical fighter he was etc etc. Soon as Crawford took him to school, he was nothing anyway.

That part-time boxer and former security from a food store is still the best name on Crawford's resume. Now you try to hype him up like he was a great win. Look at these messages I've made before Postol/Crawford fight

I think that Postol don't have any chances

I can't see nothing good about Postol, he's definitely overhyped. Crawford is an elite level fighter and that fight won't go distance, Postol will get KO'd

People overrate Postol, he's not as good as people think he is, and they're gonna be surprised by how easily Crawford will whoop that ass

....and ask yourself who really DKSAB - me or all these fans who's trying to pretend Postol was an elite level win?

And I'll tell you this before you get too sensitive over my opinion again - Crawford is one of my favorite fighters, I think he's more talented than Kovalev and 95% of boxers out here, a future HOFer, but I call a spade a spade - Postol is a good win, but he's not a better win than Donaire (Rigo), Walters (Loma) or Jacobs (Golovkin)

Wouldn't be surprised if you one of those that said Wlad would school Joshua

Maybe you need to check before assuming what other people said?

I've picked Joshua to win by KO in NSB Pick 'Em thread....but even if I've picked Wlad why the **** you're supposed to care about my opinion? I don't care about yours

then switched up and said he was too old etc etc and aint a great victory.

Sounds like the fans who's trying to discredit Hopkins win because of the age. Right? Ha ha

I ain't even feel comfortable defending Kovalev, I've got used to criticize him all the time, but I can't go against reality

You assume too ****ing much what other people think, stop that ****, nobody was trying to disrespect Joshua, and nobody was trying to discredit Klichko win, I've never said a mother****ing thing about Wlad being too old and I think it's a great win for Joshua. I've said that Joshua has to beat ANOTHER relevant heavyweight and show some consistency before getting in my p4p. And you start these mother****ing debates bringing up Lomachenko or Kovalev like they have anything to do with AJ or Klichko

[j.razor]

Like I said p4p fighters don't get dropped kov is higher on the p4p list, just like loma his only loss was a screw job.

Getting dropped comes with the territory. Floyd got knocked down by Judah and it wasn't counted and he still is TBE, so?

[BrometheusBob.]

#1 P4P usually means boring fighter with a lot of talent.. Maywether and Ward for example.
Being P4P doesn’t mean anything everyone’s P4P is subjective and their own opinion. Mike Tyson was never #1 P4P but he was the most baddass in boxing.. AJ is currently the most baddass fighter in boxing.

Actually this is incorrect. In 1989, The Ring magazine had Mike Tyson ranked as P4P #1, above fighters like Whittaker, Chavez etc.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--1980s
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_1989

[A.K]

Getting dropped comes with the territory. Floyd got knocked down by Judah and it was counted and he still is TBE, so?

He got low blowed and no it didn't count..

[j.razor]

He got low blowed and no it didn't count..

Low blow? That was in the 10th round, the knock down was like the 3rd round (don't remember exactly). So what's your point?

[A.K]

Low blow? That was in the 10th round, the knock down was like the 3rd round (don't remember exactly). So what's your point?

So you never saw the fight.. Floyd was never knocked down you clown and the low blow was in the 4th round when roger ran out.. watch the fight before you comment about **** that never happened and you already forgot the point that the top p4p doesn't get dropped.

[j.razor]

So you never saw the fight.. Floyd was never knocked down you clown and the low blow was in the 4th round when roger ran out.. watch the fight before you comment about **** that never happened and you already forgot the point that the top p4p doesn't get dropped.

WWWOOOOOWWWWW. I was going off memory and I was on point with the low-blow and one round off the knock-down that was ruled a slip.
1. Knock-down, 2 round 1min. 59sec left in the round, ruled a slip.
2. Low-blow in round 10, 11sec. left in the round. Roger comes out.
So you made NO point cuz like I said knock-downs comes with the territory, your just trying to come with an excuse to not put Ward at #1 P4P. SO maybe you should watch a fight before YOU comment so you don't make yourself look like a CLOWN. CLOWN. LMFAO

[GhostofDempsey]

Not now, not ever.

[A.K]

WWWOOOOOWWWWW. I was going off memory and I was on point with the low-blow and one round off the knock-down that was ruled a slip.
1. Knock-down, 2 round 1min. 59sec left in the round, ruled a slip.
2. Low-blow in round 10, 11sec. left in the round. Roger comes out.
So you made NO point cuz like I said knock-downs comes with the territory, your just trying to come with an excuse to not put Ward at #1 P4P. SO maybe you should watch a fight before YOU comment so you don't make yourself look like a CLOWN. CLOWN. LMFAO

I just told you it was a low blow and not a knockdown for you to even say Floyd got knocked down proves you new to this.

[j.razor]

So you never saw the fight.. Floyd was never knocked down you clown and the low blow was in the 4th round when roger ran out.. watch the fight before you comment about **** that never happened and you already forgot the point that the top p4p doesn't get dropped.

That's what I meant....