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Old 11-15-2012, 09:17 PM #1
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Default Sergio Martinez: What does he have to do for you to consider him an ATG?

I was thinking of 154 Floyd fight obviously. The problem with that is even if he wins, Floyd was a former 130-135 pounder. 154 is far from Floyd's best weight.
Considering Sergio's age, if he can effectively make 154, I will give him a lot of credit for beating Cotto or Canelo though.

Can he become an ATG by beating Gennady and a few guys like Quillien/Pirog?

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Old 11-15-2012, 09:37 PM #2
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i think his best chance of money and fame is to move down to 154, his best chance to be all time boxing great is too move up and attempt a fight against a bigger fighter... very dangerous for him i know, but a good win there settles his legacy i think. Theres not much else for him at 160
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:38 PM #3
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he needs a Marquee HOF fighter on his resume he has none at least off the top of my head he has none, I dont even think he has an elite fighter on his resume all b+ fighters.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:39 PM #4
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sweep 160, something he won't do.
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i think his best chance of money and fame is to move down to 154, his best chance to be all time boxing great is too move up and attempt a fight against a bigger fighter... very dangerous for him i know, but a good win there settles his legacy i think. Theres not much else for him at 160
Like who? Say he beats Froch. Will you consider him an ATG?
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he needs a Marquee HOF fighter on his resume he has none at least off the top of my head he has none, I dont even think he has an elite fighter on his resume all b+ fighters.
he might only have b+ fighters on his resume but he definitely has elite wins, ie. the way hes dispatched with b+ fighters with so much ease... his ko in 2 rounds with Williams was sensational at the time...
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Like who? Say he beats Froch. Will you consider him an ATG?
yeah, wouldnt you?
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:43 PM #8
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He needs to fight and beat Ward to be an ATG
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:46 PM #9
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I think Pavlik and Paul Williams were close to elite at the time he beat them though.
World Class is what? Top 10
Elite is: champion/former champion- top 1-3
A case could be made that both Pavlik and Williams were 2 of the 3 best MW'S at the time Sergio beat them.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:50 PM #10
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he can go 2 routes.

beat 2 guys: mayweather and ward.

or beat a whole bunch of other people: cotto, golovkin, geale, quillin, and froch.
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