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Old 03-10-2012, 07:49 PM #11
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We really don't know how fast Ortiz is at 154. He can come into the fight at 154 bloated looking like crap for all we know.

Secondly, we know both fighters can be chinny at times.

Ortiz has been dropped by Maidana, Berto and Mayweather. Kirkland has been dropped by Ishida, Angulo and one more guy (forgot his name).

I just think Kirkland is the more proven fighter at that weight and with ANNE WOLFE, Ortiz can do absolutely nothing with Kirkland. Anne Wolfe would already do everything to Kirkland and then some that Ortiz would never imagine doing.

Anne Wolfe + Kirkland = Slaughtered Ortiz.
well, did'nt ortiz weighed like 162 when he fought berto, did'nt he ?...so even at ww , he is a pretty big guy imo so i dont think he'd lose any of that speed compared to kirkland...kirkland is too slow for ortiz imo..and got sh1t chin...ortiz chin is ok, it's his mental game that is unpredictable....
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:05 PM #12
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Ortiz is a junior middleweight?
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:38 PM #13
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What am I reading here? ORTIZ would get K.T.F.O.! Since when is KIRKLAND chinny? Since he was in jail, got out, and steeped right into a fight? When you haven't been hit for a while, even the lightest puncher can hurt you. END OF STORY. His chin is fine and he will be world champion soon. ORTIZ.....what a disrespect to James man. We all know ORTIZ is mentally weak. He couldn't even train next to James. He isn't strong enough. If Mayweather light fisted self can knock him out what do you thin J.K. would do?

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Old 03-10-2012, 09:45 PM #14
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Kirkland by KO, Ortiz got KO'd and quit to Maidana at 140, no way could he beat Kirkland the way he looked in his last fight. As long as he has Ann Wolfe in his corner, he could beat almost anyone at 154. Would rather see Kirkland vs Paul Williams.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:48 PM #15
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3 fighters can beat him at 154


#1 Martinez by MURDER

#2 Mayweather too skilled Skills pay the bills

#3 bottom of the list but i think canelo box'es kirkands shoes off
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:52 PM #16
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Kirkland by stoppage
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:11 AM #17
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I agree Kirkland by ko.
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:18 AM #18
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Would have to see Ortiz at the weight to get a better idea. Kirkland right now if I had to pick by KO.
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