Ali's own management said watching him vs. Ellis they thought he was beyond shot. He was destroyed by Foreman before the second fight. If Martinez ruined Pwill...imagine what 6 knockdowns in 2 rounds did to Frazier. Psychologically and physically he was ruint. He only won 3 fights after Foreman. He squeeked by Bugner, beat a 197 pound quarry and in the Ellis rematch Ali's own team said he looked completely shot. So why do people act like it was a big accomplishment. If Martinez fought Pwill right now people would complain and if it was a close fight people would call Martinez out. Its 10x less of an accomplishment as Pac beating Marquez because at least Marquez has looked half decent and wasnt knocked down 6 times in 2 rounds and beaten mercilessly. So I dont get it. If Hopkins beat Jones Jr. again does that prove anything? For some reason Ali gets different rules when it comes to legacies than everyone else.
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Why Does Ali Get Credit For Beating a Shot Frazier?
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Frazier didn't fight like a shot fighter at all that night
but Ali is Ali. he tends to get pleasantly remembered. people like to act like he wasn't public enemy #1 during his prime and had racist jokes/punchlines for white boys too
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Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View PostFrazier didn't fight like a shot fighter at all that night
but Ali is Ali. he tends to get pleasantly remembered. people like to act like he wasn't public enemy #1 during his prime and had racist jokes/punchlines for white boys too
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Originally posted by Die Antwoord View PostHe was destroyed by Foreman before the second fight. If Martinez ruined Pwill...imagine what 6 knockdowns in 2 rounds did to Frazier.
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Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View PostJoe wasn't shot..........he fought like a true champ that night.
Respect his greatness
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Originally posted by Die Antwoord View PostAli's own management said watching him vs. Ellis they thought he was beyond shot. He was destroyed by Foreman before the second fight. If Martinez ruined Pwill...imagine what 6 knockdowns in 2 rounds did to Frazier. Psychologically and physically he was ruint. He only won 3 fights after Foreman. He squeeked by Bugner, beat a 197 pound quarry and in the Ellis rematch Ali's own team said he looked completely shot. So why do people act like it was a big accomplishment. If Martinez fought Pwill right now people would complain and if it was a close fight people would call Martinez out. Its 10x less of an accomplishment as Pac beating Marquez because at least Marquez has looked half decent and wasnt knocked down 6 times in 2 rounds and beaten mercilessly. So I dont get it. If Hopkins beat Jones Jr. again does that prove anything? For some reason Ali gets different rules when it comes to legacies than everyone else.
And that's exactly what happened.
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