Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
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Shocking PED revelations by T. Hauser. GBP, Mayweather, Quillin, Morales.
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Originally posted by PAC-BOY View PostIF you dont like Boxing...WTF you on this site for?
Show me where i said i didn't like boxing??
Because its called criticising, you know the same **** you do with other boxers on here??duuuh.Boxing doesn't take the right 'procedures' it what you failed to observe little boy.
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Originally posted by radioraheem View PostUSADA does in fact employ CIR testing, the Cotto-Mayweather fight used it and it says that much on the USADA website. Next thing is that, USADA does not have the authority in boxing to deny a fighter from fighting even after testing positive. It's out of their domain. VADA has stated the same thing.
Also, I'm pretty sure USADA does have the authority to actual give suspensions and stop a fight from happening. It's up to the commission though to uphold or reverse USADA's decision though.
The main difference is that VADA doesn't seem to make a judgement before handing it over to the Commission, while USADA appears to.
Of course I could be wrong, but USADA has never actually said a fight shouldn't go on due to a positive test. They did give Morales the go ahead though.
If we are to discuss transparency, the irony is that VADA is less transparent than USADA. In the past, USADA has released the results of Floyd Mayweather's tests. Whereas, VADA has not released any full-scale results to the public. In fact, the Founder of VADA is on record saying that VADA only releases results if the fighter grants them permission to do so. Thereby, a positive or negative result can easily be concealed if the fighter chooses, in regards to VADA. And this information was supplied in a Boxing Scene interview/article with VADA's Founder.
Although, I do agree with you on that they should release the results of the tests. That is true transparency.
For their to be true transparency, this has to be something implemented by the boxing commissions. Where they work together with testing agencies like USADA and/or VADA. Implementing the testing all across the board in boxing. Otherwise, what's stopping fighters like Donaire (who uses VADA) from hiding a positive result from the public?
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Originally posted by warp1432 View PostIt was overturned, but you can't say USADA followed WADA protocol in the Morales case. They didn't. Would we have even gotten that excuse if the story hadn't leaked?
Also, "he Mexico health department said Friday that cases of contaminated beef in Mexico are fewer than one in a million."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...ent-beef_n.htm
http://road.cc/content/news/46153-wa...danish-cyclist
So I don't understand what was overturned. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Originally posted by Light_Speed View PostYour article is from Oct 6, a week later WADA dropped their case against the football players and said they received evidence that there's a health problem in mexico concerning contaminated beef.
http://road.cc/content/news/46153-wa...danish-cyclist
So I don't understand what was overturned. Maybe I'm missing something.
My bad on the confusion.
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Originally posted by Sin City View Postword. benefit of the doubt until real evidence arises. people forget that you are innocent until proven guilty and Hauser hasn't proven without a reasonable doubt that Mayweather was doping.
I do think Hauser is a credible source and wouldn't throw allegations like such out there without having a foundation to stand on but until or if he releases evidence then they are mere accusations and simply rumors.
you can't say everything else about the article wasn't on point though
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Originally posted by Sin City View Postword. benefit of the doubt until real evidence arises. people forget that you are innocent until proven guilty and Hauser hasn't proven without a reasonable doubt that Mayweather was doping.
I do think Hauser is a credible source and wouldn't throw allegations like such out there without having a foundation to stand on but until or if he releases evidence then they are mere accusations and simply rumors.
you can't say everything else about the article wasn't on point though
this is my feeling on the subject. as of right now we're waiting for anything to be substantiated.
if hauser puts out a story like this one you've got to figure it's because he can actually substantiate these things. again, we're speculating, but i'll try and give a journalist like hauser the benefit of the doubt initially.
if he can't go anywhere with any of this then he's probably not doing much more than going for publicity, or trying to slander somebody.
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