WAIT!! I thought the shoulder roll doesnt work on a southpaw stance?

[Cash Cow]

Floyd stayed in front of Ortiz all night and shoulder rolled and blocked all of Ortiz's attacks from a defensive stance that is rumored to not work vs Southpaws..

[Brockton Lip]

Yes and no.

[sugersean15]

ya i was surprised at that as well

[intoccabile]

Floyd stayed in front of Ortiz all night and shoulder rolled and blocked all of Ortiz's attacks from a defensive stance that is rumored to not work vs Southpaws..

He was high guarding the majority of the night. He switched it up accordingly.

[intoccabile]

ya i was surprised at that as well

If you roll against a southpaws jab then you risk coming back into his power hand. Ortiz doesn't jab. Do the math. It's no wonder that the times he actually got hit where while rolling.

[Cash Cow]

Yes and no.

show me a fight in which in didnt work?

actually southpaws are very horrible vs mayweather ..#'s dont lie..look at the compubox vs Corley Mitchell, Judah and now even Ortiz......

Mayweather having problems with southpaws is a giant MYTH..
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[Steak]

Why is everyone so generalistic with these statements? The shoulder roll automatically isnt completely neutralized by a southpaw stance, thats just stupid.
but it does have a few fundamental weaknesses in it, particularly that southpaw right hook if you do a sort of overhead chop with it over the shoulder, and while the opponent is bent over leaning to the right a close range straight left hand can find its way in easier.

damn man, do yall even watch boxing?

[intoccabile]

show me a fight in which in didnt work?

actually southpaws are very horrible vs mayweather ..#'s dont lie..look at the compubox vs Corley Mitchell, Judah and now even Ortiz......

Mayweather having problems with southpaws is a giant MYTH..
.

We can't because he switches it up heavily against southpaws. I could show you Toney/Griffin though if that will make you feel better.

[Bobby No Sex]

im a pacfan but when floyd mayweather stood in front of ortiz during round 3 and just kept peppering ortiz with that right hand was amazing. mayweather didn't even move he just stood there and kept bam bam bam bam ortiz to the face. it's like he didn't even have to break a sweat!

[Cash Cow]

actually Pac has more problems with straight right hands from Orthodox fighters who have been able to hit him cleanly then Mayweather has with left handed fighters....

this cant be disputed..the facts and history dont lie...