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  • The Greatest/Plunderers of the Philippines..

    name and rate them
    1. Marcoses
    2. Binays
    3. Estradas
    4 Dutertes?

    Discuss...

  • #2
    Where does Erap and GMA fall into this?

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    • #3
      The Kingdom of Spain
      The Empire of Japan

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      • #4
        C'mon you never heard of Yama****a's gold? That is sh--ita's gold.
        Last edited by TJ highway; 05-21-2018, 04:42 AM.

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        • #5
          You have to balance things out
          Some of the usual "plunder" suspects also GENERATED wealth for/in the country.

          Spain is a common answer, but her infrastructure investments here alone
          were staggering in today's pesos. The bulk of the 'wealth' that the Spaniards
          chiefly 'plundered' wasn't even Filipino wealth: it was Mexican/Peruvian
          silver coin shipped out of Acapulco to Manila, used to pay for Chinese goods
          that were sent back to Spanish American and European markets.
          Some of that coin was meant for local Philippine circulation but was lost
          to chronic outbound smuggling, as bullion: whereas the Spaniards stole
          from the eximport budget, it wasn't them denuding the Philippines of
          circulating silver coin.* The Philippines were a net loss for Spain, especially
          after Spain's colonies in the Americas won their independence, cutting off
          the supply of silver that helped bankroll Spain's Asian colony.

          The U.S.? Again, balance of payments data doesn't lie: the Philippines were a
          serious drain on American finances --which is why they were eager to grant
          independence (a process interrupted briefly by WW2). US were so desperate
          to ditch us, they didn't even wait for us to rebuild. We were jettisoned in '46,
          a smoking war-ruin barely able to manage as a nation/state. Yeah, yeah....
          the Tydings-McDuffie Act pegged it July 4th of '46, but the US could have
          superseded it with a delay if it wanted to. We were a losing proposition, and
          the war made us worse. The US wanted to be rid of us because we were
          effectively plundering THEM.

          Japan? That should have been covered by war reparations, yes?
          Ask the Laurels what happened to the money.
          Yamashita's Treasure is a red herring: firstly, there's no proof; and secondly,
          even as alleged, it was looted from multiple Southeast Asian countries,
          least of them the Philippines.

          Under each of those regimes, there is one common thread of alarm over
          economic sabotage and smuggling, from 1598-1869 under the Spanish,
          from 1899 to 1938 under the Americans, and 1941-1942 under Japan,
          and it all points to one group: Chinese residents.

          Total amount lost to them during the Spanish colonial period alone, might
          be as high as US$280 Billion in today's dollars. The US was quick to impose
          debasement to our silver coinage to prevent smuggling to China, but the
          loss from 1899-1912 in today's money was perhaps US$9 Billion, and all
          the figures used above are only about outbound smuggling of gold/silver,
          and exclude smuggling of other goods:

          It's not just that smuggling deprives the Philippines of import/export tariffs,
          it's that local industry is drowned by the dumping of cheap Chinese imports,
          and the loss to our economy over the centuries is just ...numbing.

          JM2P, YMMV, we were fucked over hard, and keep taking it today.





          *there's evidence the Spaniards were chronic smugglers of Philippine gold
          (from diverse panneries and mines in Bondoc and Bicol), and this was
          considerable into the mid 1600's, but again, this was more than offset by
          Spanish investment in Philippine infrastructure.
          Last edited by horge; 06-01-2018, 10:04 PM.

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          • #6
            If these conquerors generated wealth for the Philippines then we should encourage more countries to plunder the Philippines. As of now China would be the leading candidate, followed by Russia or maybe some middle eastern country, I'm sure this will be the good for the country.

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            • #7
              you worthless pac-tards.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
                you worthless pac-tards.
                who the fuck here boned your stinky ass?

                awwwww, you mad, homey?

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                • #9
                  Bob Arum....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chups View Post
                    we should encourage more countries to plunder the Philippines. As of now China would be the leading candidate, followed by Russia or maybe some middle eastern country, I'm sure this will be the good for the country.
                    Chups, you've been talking to Du30, haven't you??

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