Could PAULIE win an MMA match with just a Jab?

[Scipio2009]

That fight would be horrendous. I’d rather watch Devon Alexander fight.

But come on, Mark Coleman would have wanted to be Khabib when he grew up lol. Khabib has a muuuuch better understanding of MmA than Mark Coleman did. Mark Coleman was basically a brute among brutes. I remember how badly gassed I saw him get once and he had zero survival instincts or any idea if what to do. He’s actually a great example. Outside of ground and pound he had nothing else.

That’s why he wasnt just stopped by the kickboxer/thai type guys, but also submitted multiple times. That better understanding of the existencd of BJJ and of boxing has led Khabib to an impressive record and title against all types of styles.

That still doesn't change the fact that Khabib's entire game is built on getting a hold of you, with Khabib not really having much else if he can't get a hold of you, even with the knowledge.

[Real King Kong]

I'm not an MMA expert, but you're drastically overstating the ability level of fighters in my opinion.

At 145lbs, the weight class Paulie would be fighting at, the number of fighters who can kick is lower than you think, nevermind the number who can effectively kick, nevermind the number who can effectively leg kick, nevermind the fighters who are adept enough at leg kicks to immobilize the lead leg in 5 minutes.

Just like everything else in MMA, throwing a proper debilitating leg kick is about as universal as a proper mata leao, or a proper plum knee; meaning not all that universal.

I think you're overestimating the average person's ability to deal with low kicks if they aren't well trained in that area. you're judging the ability of mma fighter's to be effective and the effects of those kicks, by watching guys who are used to seeing/take them. not to mention, the threat of takedowns deters kicking...which would be a non issue with paulie.

Paulie fights in a classic boxer stance, with the front foot on roughly a 45 degree angle...anyone who can kick even a little bit would feast on that front leg. Kickboxers/mma fighters usually use a more square stance with the front foot pointing almost straight forward so they can lift the leg to check the kick on the shin, or put weight down and turn their quad into it. It's a lot harder to check kicks in a boxing stance and much more painful when they land toward the side/back of the leg. there's a nerve that runs along there, and even a few well placed kicks can be debilitating. they wouldn't have to completely cripple him or anything, just disrupt his ability to transfer weight when punching/moving.

[Scipio2009]

you never said anything about teaching him anything.

you asked if he could win an MMA mathc with just a jab. i told you he couldn't get out of a 5:00 minute round. which he couldn't.

So, no right hand, no hook, no uppercut? Lol, good to know

['b']

Uh, no., he'd get killed against any no ******ed opponent. How could he do damage with his jab? How could he deter his opponent from grabbing him, throwing him around and elbowing him in the face, knees to the body etc.?

The referee doesn't jump in to 'save' you and reset the fight when you close the distance and grab someone, only illegal shots have the ref step in. Boxing is a sport, MMA is a closer simulation of a street fight / fight to the death

[Scipio2009]

I think you're overestimating the average person's ability to deal with low kicks if they aren't well trained in that area. you're judging the ability of mma fighter's to be effective and the effects of those kicks, by watching guys who are used to seeing/take them. not to mention, the threat of takedowns deters kicking...which would be a non issue with paulie.

Paulie fights in a classic boxer stance, with the front foot on roughly a 45 degree angle...anyone who can kick even a little bit would feast on that front leg. Kickboxers/mma fighters usually use a more square stance with the front foot pointing almost straight forward so they can lift the leg to check the kick on the shin, or put weight down and turn their quad into it. It's a lot harder to check kicks in a boxing stance and much more painful when they land toward the side/back of the leg. there's a nerve that runs along there, and even a few well placed kicks can be debilitating. they wouldn't have to completely cripple him or anything, just disrupt his ability to transfer weight when punching/moving.

The leg is there, but if you looked at the top 100 145lb fighters in the country, easily the bottom 50 of those fighters would have issues with properly placing a leg kick of kicking with any real confidence.

A fight is still a fight, even with all of the extra tools available in MMA. Age and fitness aside, Paulie Malignaggi would walk into the 145lb division with arguably the best hands in MMA (Frankie Edgar has great boxing for MMA, made to look better with his use of the rest of his told); is an 8-9 fighter who's kind of confident in his kicks going to make the physical risk/commitment to land that shot.

Nate Diaz is built on great BJJ, really good boxing and reality good general grappling. He'll check the occasional leg kick, but that's his own style

[NearHypnos]

That still doesn't change the fact that Khabib's entire game is built on getting a hold of you, with Khabib not really having much else if he can't get a hold of you, even with the knowledge.

Cant argue with that but because he’s not as bad as some of the others from the older school, he can impose himself. He’s gotten a hold of everyone he’s tried so far so lets see if Conor can change that. His stand up isn’t elite for his sport by any means but he’s developed a heavy jab and his stand up is at least respectable for MmA.

[Real King Kong]

The leg is there, but if you looked at the top 100 145lb fighters in the country, easily the bottom 50 of those fighters would have issues with properly placing a leg kick of kicking with any real confidence.

A fight is still a fight, even with all of the extra tools available in MMA. Age and fitness aside, Paulie Malignaggi would walk into the 145lb division with arguably the best hands in MMA (Frankie Edgar has great boxing for MMA, made to look better with his use of the rest of his told); is an 8-9 fighter who's kind of confident in his kicks going to make the physical risk/commitment to land that shot.

Nate Diaz is built on great BJJ, really good boxing and reality good general grappling. He'll check the occasional leg kick, but that's his own style

Again, you're assessing their abilities by how they perform against other mma fighters who know how to defend kicks and have the threat of shooting takedowns off kicks. Paulie doesn't have that experience or pose that threat. It's not that difficult to land kicks at range when you only have punches to worry about in return.

His hands would be a threat no doubt, but there's too many ways to smother that work, and he'd need to clear a lot of threats just to get into punching range. Mma fights aren't typically fought at boxing range unless you have 2 guys who are basically agreeing to do that...which not too many guys are gonna do with a pro boxer.

Nate diaz is a guy who fights more or less in a boxing stance, and he eats a lot of low kicks.

[KidDinamita]

Yes he can win an MMA fight, if he fights CM Punk

[The3]

Well Holy Holm's doesn't have that great job yet she's been great for the UFC