Comments Thread For: Joshua's Manager: Deontay Wilder Deal Will Involve Two Fights

[Laligalaliga]

1) a duck is someone who demanded 50m, got offered $50m, but still refused to fight

2) a duck is someone who lowballed Wilder $12m, then quickly ran off to fight Povetkin

3) a duck is someone who lowballed Wilder $15m ..... shat himself when Wilder accepted ..... but then refused to supply a date and signature on the contract, and included ridiculous impediments that made no sense at all

you need to grow up and deal with the fact that Wilder made every effort to make that fight last year..... your excuses are childish and absurd

how could forget / ignore / deny that Joshua and Hearn lied, low-balled, and then lost their pen

when Team Wilder realized that Joshua and Hearn had no intention of making that fight, they moved on.....

Joshua is looking like a blatant duck right now..... all the brits are saying it..... Khan, Froch, Bellew, Haye, Warren, Lewis, etc

Joshua's hometown fans know that he shat the bed..... and they know that AJ is not even the best heavyweight in the UK

Of course a low ball is an offer that is 10X bigger than you regular, yeah that's a low ball.
An offer is confirm legit when it's offered on twitter, yeah that's a real offer.

Thank you for your active participation, now can you go to bed? You definitely are drunk.

[rudy]

Which huge A side star gave most of the money to the winner in a rematch?

I'll wait.

David Haye you moron oh he is not STAR

[OldTerry]

Actually, it was the opposite. The ref broke them up as soon as they got on the inside. It only happened 4 times throughout the fight, but AJ haters and weirdos wanted to make out that it was a constant occurrence.

What you're saying here happened only in your mind. The same place it happens with all the weirdos.

Sid-ney, is your last name vicious? I believe you're probably a young guy who always goes for the throat and has never considered taking prisoners. You are quick to name call and put people down and that doesn't win you any points. What you should try is convincing people through common sense argument because name calling is not proof you are right. This will take you far in life my friend. Have a good day.

[Scipio2009]

DAZN just needs to get out the checkbook & write a bigger number on it this time & it seems doable.

Kinda hate the 2 fight deal doe. Although in fairness if the first fight sucks I imagine all sides will have some agreement in place to not pursue a rematch. Plus it likely means one of the belts gets stripped so even after we have a undisputed champion it'll be short lived cuz the ABC Groups got jokes.

If Wilder & DAZN agree to terms watch Ruiz beat Joshua out of the f#cking blue or Joshua tear something & is out for 8 months or some sh^t & f#ck up this fight from happening next or something.

Honestly... I think the checkbook option is now basically dead, tbh; the view count on Wilder's KO from the formal CBS Sports social media screen was over 10 million views within the day, with CBS Sports, FS1, ESPN, and even NBC and non-sports platforms committing time/energy/space to hype Wilder.

Assuming Joshua doesn't **** the bed next Saturday, Wilder-Joshua will blow by the 2m PPV buys of the biggest heavyweight fight ever and maybe even give Mayweather-Pacquiao a run.

Wilder already walked away from $40m on a feeling; what do you expect the stick number to be now that his feeling may turn out to be right?

Beyond that, the US/UK split is probably just talk; Anthony Joshua isn't going to cut the pie by two thirds in the name of taking the fight home.

[Scipio2009]

After being outboxed by Fury, Wilder won't fight Joshua until his team sees improvement in his boxing skills. They hope that in 2-3 fight he improves enough to give them some hope in Joshua fight. Hence why he's back to boxing basics with Jay Deas.

Wilder was ready to run it back immediately, until Fury tucked and ran (in the name of delaying things for another 3 fights to maybe run it back).

[lfc19titles]

1) a duck is someone who demanded 50m, got offered $50m, but still refused to fight

2) a duck is someone who lowballed Wilder $12m, then quickly ran off to fight Povetkin

3) a duck is someone who lowballed Wilder $15m ..... shat himself when Wilder accepted ..... but then refused to supply a date and signature on the contract, and included ridiculous impediments that made no sense at all

you need to grow up and deal with the fact that Wilder made every effort to make that fight last year..... your excuses are childish and absurd

how could forget / ignore / deny that Joshua and Hearn lied, low-balled, and then lost their pen

when Team Wilder realized that Joshua and Hearn had no intention of making that fight, they moved on.....

Joshua is looking like a blatant duck right now..... all the brits are saying it..... Khan, Froch, Bellew, Haye, Warren, Lewis, etc

Joshua's hometown fans know that he shat the bed..... and they know that AJ is not even the best heavyweight in the UK

A duck is offering 50m but when asked for the contract to make it happen, refuse to send one

The 15m was sent after team wilder failed to send a contract as it was all an act

This was proven by them ducking 100m and finally admitting they don’t want to fight Joshua

[Scipio2009]

Both would be entering the unification voluntarily.

It's hardly new for voluntary defences to include rematch clauses and as both hold belts it's rational they should both have that option.

Are we forgetting that way back when.. when the first offers were being tabled, that wilder and finkel threw a fit when there was no rematch offer on the table for wilder? But one for AJ?

If they felt the way most ( uneducated ) people here feel re: rematch clauses they wouldn't have kicked up such a fuss.

If there was no rematch clause and say Joshua in a hypothetical example banged out wilder or vice versa in the 5th, or 6th, with scorecards even, the respective Dan bases of the loser would be crying for a rematch.

This takes care of it and nullifies the ability of either camp to not offer the chance of redemption.

Wilder fury had a rematch clause iirc, noone batted an eyelid then.

No one is arguing that having a rematch clause is not valid; this is my first time hearing of Mr Cunningham, he is within his standing to speak, but locking in the location now makes no sense.

For argument's sake, let's say Anthony Joshua knocks out Andy Ruiz inside 4, Joshua calls Wilder out, Joshua's management and Wilder's management come to an agreement, and the fight happens to close out the year in December.

Wilder-Joshua for the unified/lineal heavyweight championship happens from T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, and the fight breaks 3.5m homes on PPV.

Regardless of who wins the first fight, why would Anthony Joshua ever want THAT fight in the UK, where the max pot is like equivalent to $50m plus whatever DAZN is willing to pay beyond the ~$4m that Showtime and HBO put up to air Joshua's last monster fight at 2pm on Saturday?

Makes no sense

[Eff Pandas]

Honestly... I think the checkbook option is now basically dead, tbh; the view count on Wilder's KO from the formal CBS Sports social media screen was over 10 million views within the day, with CBS Sports, FS1, ESPN, and even NBC and non-sports platforms committing time/energy/space to hype Wilder.

Assuming Joshua doesn't **** the bed next Saturday, Wilder-Joshua will blow by the 2m PPV buys of the biggest heavyweight fight ever and maybe even give Mayweather-Pacquiao a run.

Wilder already walked away from $40m on a feeling; what do you expect the stick number to be now that his feeling may turn out to be right?

"Maybe give MayPac a run". Lets not go crazy now.

I agree Wilder's Q score has risen greatly in recent months & even recent days, but idk if its the #1 revenue generating HW PPV surpassing legends Tyson & Holyfield just cuz some mfers watched a gif on SM. Lotsa Americans don't really know Joshua yet to be invested in this fight. And plenty aren't invested enough in Wilder to drop $80 on a PPV.

And idk wtf Wilder thinks hes gonna get THAT much better than what he was offered. I suspect we could see a 40M per/3 fight offer or a 50M per/2 fight deal & thats a nice bump from his 30M per/4 fight deal. But I mean if DAZN retains Joshua's rights Wilder is likely to be the one needing to jump or the fight ain't happening.

[Scipio2009]

Hey bro. They got this new thing out now called p.ussy. You outta try some. You’re welcome in at advance.

Do you honestly think that that dude has the social/communication skills or the bankroll to go out and get some va.gina? With the way they post on this site? lol

[Scipio2009]

I think you are right..... Wilder will want to force the fight to go the wilder way which he has advantage. If it gets down to boxing skills decide, he knows he will loose woefully, so it's who land first.

That's not how any of this works.

Wilder comes in behind a really good jab, good movement, and fighting in space looking to place that right hand clean; Anthony Joshua comes in behind that conventional guard, comes forward, and uses an alright jab to get into range to fire the array. Both take a good shot, but Wilder withstands the bigger shot, imo.

Wilder didn't force much against Breazeale; he did get excited about he clipped Breazeale with that shot, come unglued for a moment, ate two desperation rights, clinched and then got back to the plan. Change the head slot, good heavy and hard lead jab, get the gauge for some of the other shots, but most importantly, find a way to get that right hand to the jaw.