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Originally posted by TheFrog View PostJust like Stiverne?
But even Fury didn’t stay on his feet when taking Wilder’s best. Only man I’ve seen do that is Duhaupas. His chin is legend.
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Originally posted by TheFrog View PostJust like Stiverne?Last edited by vitali1999; 02-11-2020, 10:22 PM.
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Originally posted by Legends456 View PostIMO Fury took Wilder’s best shots much better than Stiverne, as he got up from them all. Wilder didn’t hit Stiverne with much in their first fight because he had a hand problem. In their rematch, he knocked Stiverne out in the first round.
But even Fury didn’t stay on his feet when taking Wilder’s best. Only man I’ve seen do that is Duhaupas. His chin is legend.
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Originally posted by TheFrog View PostI can agree with this. You are looking at it far more realistically than the guy I quoted. He's just blabbing and talking trash.
Wilder is, in my opinion, one of the hardest punchers in HW history, but it’s not true that everyone goes over like a bowling pin and stays down once he touches them. It’s possible to withstand a few of his shots, but it’s VERY unwise IMO.
Wilder is also a much better boxer IMO than people give him credit for. His footwork and timing and sense of the boxing “rhythm” are quite good, otherwise he wouldn’t be able to land so many great KO shots even though he punches hard.
I’ve said it before on here, but I believe the way to truly “beat” Wilder will first take someone to really throw off and disrupt his timing and sense and feel for the rhythm of the fight. Fury IMO did a decent job for most of their first fight, but either Fury faded at the end, or got too ****y, or perhaps Wilder just figured out his rhythm by then.
It would take a good boxer/puncher with excellent footwork and a granite chin to show him up. I’m not sure Fury’s the guy. I’d give him props if he can do it, but my gut feeling is Wilder stays unbeaten for a while yet, and then maybe someone like Usyk, DuBois, or Kownacki has his day (and his belt).
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Originally posted by Legends456 View PostI wish people would check their emotions a bit when discussing boxing and look at things a bit more scientifically.
Wilder is, in my opinion, one of the hardest punchers in HW history, but it’s not true that everyone goes over like a bowling pin and stays down once he touches them. It’s possible to withstand a few of his shots, but it’s VERY unwise IMO.
Wilder is also a much better boxer IMO than people give him credit for. His footwork and timing and sense of the boxing “rhythm” are quite good, otherwise he wouldn’t be able to land so many great KO shots even though he punches hard.
I’ve said it before on here, but I believe the way to truly “beat” Wilder will first take someone to really throw off and disrupt his timing and sense and feel for the rhythm of the fight. Fury IMO did a decent job for most of their first fight, but either Fury faded at the end, or got too ****y, or perhaps Wilder just figured out his rhythm by then.
It would take a good boxer/puncher with excellent footwork and a granite chin to show him up. I’m not sure Fury’s the guy. I’d give him props if he can do it, but my gut feeling is Wilder stays unbeaten for a while yet, and then maybe someone like Usyk, DuBois, or Kownacki has his day (and his belt).
Personally I'm just very happy that heavyweight boxing has gotten so interesting over the last few years. This is exactly what the sport needs. I'd like to see Wilder win because I think his style makes for more exciting events down the road. Fury is a pretty fun guy too though so for me this fight is ultimately a no lose scenario.
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I think that's a very good strategy. Fury is naturally heavier, bigger and physically stronger than the Bronze Bomber; So why shouldn't he use those strengths to his advantage?
He can make it a very physical and ugly fight with his size and weight while bullying and roughing Wilder up on the inside by constant leaning, grappling and body punching.
If the referee allows him to maul Deontay Wilder, then perhaps he can inevitably wear the much smaller man down and possibly even stopping him.
However, he won't go down without a fight. He has tons of heart as demonstrated in the first Luiz Ortiz fight and just like Evander Holyfield in his first fight with Riddick Bowe.
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Originally posted by vitali1999 View PostTrue. Fury already showed he takes Wilder's best shots in the first fight
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